Preston Council warn young people 'Don't kill Granny'

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news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-young-people-warned-dont-kill-granny-as-lockdown-imposed-in-preston-12045017

Is this really the only way we can get these youngsters to behave? And will they take any notice?

I think it's an appalling message.

Obviously young people (just like the rest of us) need to take basic precautions such as not swarming into enclosed spaces and licking each other, but to blame them if granny dies from Covid - which she could catch anywhere and from anyone - and which is symptomless* in a huge number of people, and therefore often impossible to detect before it's too late - is absolutely disgusting.

I agree with Lindy2
Close friend of my teenager lives with her Grandmother as well as parents. She is being extremely careful, as is my dd, while the majority of their friends are having parties.
I think we all feel particularly sorry for younger people, as they have missed out on so much this year, but dd is panicking about going back into school with all these people in a few weeks time.

I think the headline message is misleading. It says young people. Young people is the new normal phrase for children used in education. When we hear young people, we think school-age children, because that is the new term. I hate the term.

The article, and the issue, is clearly about young adults and preston’s pub culture.

The guardian article certainly didnt mention groups of teens at all. Just pubs.

So, when people are enraged at ‘young people’
On this thread, are you thinking young adults in pubs? Or teenagers hanging out? And why?

@AlecTrevelyan006

Shouldn’t it be ‘don’t kill granddad’ ?

Ha ha. So true!

@cptartapp

I live in Preston. The city is awash with grannies out and about for their daily stroll, supermarket shopping several times a week, collecting the paper, collecting prescriptions, popping round to family etc etc. I work in healthcare and many many of them tell me this, and are not changing their ways for anyone. Meanwhile my two teens are expected to sit exams next year, having been denied six months worth of education largely to protect more vulnerable groups such as these. Offensive headline.

Absolutely!!! And no doubt the 'grannies' getting on with life are applauded for being brave heroes and not snowflakes.

But god forbid young people get on with their lives. The murderers

@Lindy2

It's short and to the point.

If they don't care about catching it themselves it clearly points out the risk if they pass it on to other family members.

If this virus mainly killed teenagers and children do you think that parents and grandparents would be carrying on as normal or do you think they would be doing everything and anything to protect the young?

Do I think older people would give up everything to save the children? Do. I. Fuck.

My 2 DDs have started goings to pubs and restaurants again (mostly outdoors). I have asked them to stay away from their grandparents at the moment. Common sense really.

To answer a pp. Half the new cases in Preston are under 30. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-lancashire-53678427

On this thread, are you thinking young adults in pubs? Or teenagers hanging out? And why?

Probably a bit of both but young adults in pubs for the most part won't live with grandparents and for the most part probably aren't going around to Grannies house during Covid. Many of them will have their own flats. Teenagers on the other hand will take their lead from their parents and a product of their home environment. If their parents are reckless then they probably will be.

Ultimately if pubs are that much a problem, why are they open? It was common knowledge people (young or otherwise) weren't going to socially distance after a few drinks. The government were repeatedly warned to that effect before they were opened up. You either accept it or keep them shut.

Presumably schools won’t be opening there then given no PPE/SD and huge group gatherings for hours?

Since when did teens take their lead from their parents. . Most teens I know do the exact opposite.

I’m not a teen or a granny (although old enough to be one), but I don’t see the headline as offensive to anyone. It’s meant to get a message across, not be personal.

The govt has gone with deadly serious messaging (rightly). The local councils cannot do the same without risking diluting that message or causing confusion. They have to chose something different and they have.
Who cares if some people find it patronising. It is memorable, it’s got people talking and if it gets through then it has worked.

Since when did teens take their lead from their parents. grin. Most teens I know do the exact opposite.

Discipline, standards, values, my house my rules etc. Yes teens will rebel but teens who are properly parented won't be going out to parties every week in the middle of a pandemic and be out all night with their mates.

Well if they do infect their granny at least they won't turn round and say no one told them what might happen.

It's quite tricky coming up with a slogan that people will take seriously when our Prime Minister and his underlings say it's OK to travel hundreds of miles for your mum's birthday, and have a day out on your wife's birthday to "test your eyesight."

We do not have grown-up leadership in this country.

@PigletJohn

It's quite tricky coming up with a slogan that people will take seriously when our Prime Minister and his underlings say it's OK to travel hundreds of miles for your mum's birthday, and have a day out on your wife's birthday to "test your eyesight."

We do not have grown-up leadership in this country.

It’s also difficult to take them seriously when they authorised the release of 1000’s of elderly people into care homes without testing for Covid, even when they displayed symptoms before that release, therefore being responsible for the death of potentially tens of thousands of ‘grannies’.

It's horrible! My sensitive ds6 would get nightmares if he read it. And god forbid any younger children do lose a grandparent to covid, and forever think it was their fault!

And quite apart from that, the amount we have expected young people to give up is obscene - so much lost formative time, and for the older young people job losses, anxiety etc.

Cummings loves meaningless three word slogans.

Get Coronavirus done!

Wash Cover Make!

Give away Control!

Eye Test Drive!

@cptartapp

I live in Preston. The city is awash with grannies out and about for their daily stroll, supermarket shopping several times a week, collecting the paper, collecting prescriptions, popping round to family etc etc. I work in healthcare and many many of them tell me this, and are not changing their ways for anyone. Meanwhile my two teens are expected to sit exams next year, having been denied six months worth of education largely to protect more vulnerable groups such as these. Offensive headline.

100% 80+ relatives life relatively unchanged. Stroppily refusing shopping support whilst their grandchildren have exams and graduations cancelled.

Absolutely pointless teens will be in their "bubble of hundreds " in school within a few weeks so what's the difference in a vastly smaller group than the whole school year hanging about in open spaces enjoying their summer like teens are meant to and catching up on the months missed.
The teens I know of have dealt with and accepted school closures and lockdown brilliantly its not fair to keep them locked up even more. I'm parent that is actively encouraging my ds to go out and meet up with his friends . my parents (his grandparents) would be horrified if I was keeping him indoors even longer on the low possibility it ended up killing them especially when they themselves are going about their normal lives as best they can within the restrictions .
I'm under no illusion that they get within 2m of each other but in all honesty I see groups of all age categories not social distancing (myself included I've met up with friends and sat right next too each other) its not just teens that aren't keeping 2m apart you only need to go on SM to see that its across the board.

Of the 47 new cases in Preston (pop. approx 328,000) in the last week approx 23/24 of them were among the under 30s.

We know that most of them are going to suffer none or mild symptoms. We also know that even if they pass on the virus to someone else, that person, even if they are among the more vulnerable demographics, are more than likely to suffer none or mild symptoms.

If restrictions are lifted, cases will rise. So long as the rise doesn't over burden the NHS then it shouldn't be a problem.

I don't have any grandparents, does that mean I can do what I like

"100%
80+ relatives life relatively unchanged. Stroppily refusing shopping support whilst their grandchildren have exams and graduations cancelled."

Totally agree! I am 32 and lucky enough to still have 3 of my own grandparents - all in mid 80s,all with big health concerns and all had enough now and doing what they want. One goes to hospital for dialysis every other day and spends her free days in cafes, marks and spencers and at garden centres. She wants to see her family all the time!

Come September every child pretty much is going to be back at school in full classrooms. A child can hardly sit in class every day terrified about killing Mummy or Gran in case they bring Covid home.

"A child can hardly sit in class every day terrified about killing Mummy or Gran in case they bring Covid home"

why is that then? Do you think kids should become as thick as pig shit and not go to school or learn anything?

Well I want to hear from those who say that we need to 'protect the vulnerable and let the rest of us crack on with things'. What exactly is the plan for protecting the vulnerable who live with or are regularly in contact with school aged children?