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Are we delaying the inevitable?

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Slytherin · 06/08/2020 21:30

I am wondering if we are delaying the inevitable here with continued lockdowns/social distancing etc.
These events surely happen in the world and over history to ensure population reduction and control.
Surely the virus will continue to circulate whatever happens, until it has burnt itself out/finished its natural run?
Unless a vaccine/decent treatment is found sooner.

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catsarecute · 16/08/2020 00:00

We need to suppress and delay it until there's a vaccine. Social distancing, masks etc are here to stay for a while. All the indications are that the NHS wouldn't cope with the second wave if we just go back to normal (no SD etc). Yes I am also worried about the economy and there will be consequences either way. But ultimately, we are the economy, so keeping ourselves healthy will in the long term give us the way back out of this too.

HesterShaw1 · 17/08/2020 20:06

@catsarecute

We need to suppress and delay it until there's a vaccine. Social distancing, masks etc are here to stay for a while. All the indications are that the NHS wouldn't cope with the second wave if we just go back to normal (no SD etc). Yes I am also worried about the economy and there will be consequences either way. But ultimately, we are the economy, so keeping ourselves healthy will in the long term give us the way back out of this too.
New Zealand is just finding out that it's not possible to suppress a virus long term and maintain a functioning society and economy. You think the virus won't come back there? It's impossible to suppress it even on that remote set of islands at the bottom of the world.
Jihhery · 17/08/2020 22:27

New Zealand is just finding out that it's not possible to suppress a virus long term and maintain a functioning society and economy. You think the virus won't come back there? It's impossible to suppress it even on that remote set of islands at the bottom of the world.

No, they're not finding that out. The UK is finding out it's impossible to delay lockdown (to prioritise the economy) and not cripple the economy. Why not look a little closer to home for your learning opportunities. It's not unexpected that they will have the odd small outbreak but it doesn't mean, at this point, what you're pleased to suggest. They're bringing it under control well.

HesterShaw1 · 17/08/2020 22:29

Time will tell Jihhery.

But there are articles being published down under which are asking questions about the Australisian approach, given that it has left them vulnerable and isolated until a vaccine is found.

Jihhery · 17/08/2020 22:36

given that it has left them vulnerable and isolated until a vaccine is found

What, you mean without a pandemic? What a terrible vulnerability they're suffering. Able to go to work and school without mayhem. Able to treat cancer patients. No millions poured into ventiliation and COVID treatments.

Gosh, they're in a bad way.

It is entirely to be expected that their approach is critiqued. It would be critiqued if it was bad and critiqued if it was good. That's the nature of international research and academic debate.

HesterShaw1 · 17/08/2020 23:02

Is just fine with you Jihhery. Something to aspire to?

RealityExistsInTheHumanMind · 17/08/2020 23:32

@HesterShaw1

Is just fine with you Jihhery. Something to aspire to?
And this

www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/aug/14/ants-crawling-from-wound-horrifying-scenes-at-coronavirus-hit-aged-care-home-in-melbourne?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other&fbclid=IwAR3MWv44LXEs-GLWPBp5aQLLhtD23X_58Cn-pKvUlfXKjyoMZb0WqY5zLWM

because already overstretched care home workers can't cope without help from families

I am so so glad I am not a catastrophiser.

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