Sorry depressing thread. Are the Government deliberately drip feeding us on schools? So sick of it.

[purplerain2020]

I think I read somewhere that there is a schools review on 11th August. A while ago we were promised summers schools, not that I believed but they never happened. They promised laptops for those that needed it, only a few get it.

We've been promised that schools will fully open in September. I believe they will open and they won't back down on this. But, I think they are fully aware that within a few weeks, schools will be closing left right and centre and working Mums are going to be scrabbling around looking for someone to look after their children while they work and praying for the goodwill of their employers. The Government will have done what they promised, got everyone back in September, after all, they didn't say how long it would be for did they? Surely they must be getting advise by the Scientists of what is likely to happen with the procedures or lack of them for schools in September?

I keep hearing Mumsnet poster say but how can we work? How can we pay our bills? How will we keep a roof over our heads if the schools don't open full time? I am beginning to realise that it may well be the case that indeed, we won't be able to work and we won't be able to pay our bills and there is nothing we can do about it. It will be down to us to step up and educate our children when schools are shut because the government has been underfunding our schools for years. I work part-time from home, 25 hours a week, even that is looking rocky at the moment. DH's job is ok but I feel like he is hanging on by the skin of his teeth. So sick of our lives being turned upside down.

I'm in my early 40s, I was a child in the 80's and my family was hit hard by the recession. I've got a sick feeling in my stomach that the future is going to repeat itself.

I have no idea what points BananaBread is trying to make either. She keeps veering from one thing to another.
We never got the answer to how teachers are "entitled" and then found ourselves having it pointed out that there's no money for additional teachers in church halls! Almost as if teachers didn't know this already!

I fully support the teachers and as single parent who is still shielding under my GP's advice, please believe me when I say I do not want to send my world into an environment where there are large bubbles, no PPE and to be expected to get on with it.

Have spoke to the school already who agree, but informed me there has been no guidance on blended learning for pupils in exceptional circumstances, and I agree it's disgusting teachers being refused PPE.

@FrippEnos

Do masks do more harm than good for children who will just touch the mask anyway.

Children in other countries manage without these issues. Why are the children in the UK so special that they can't manage it?

I’m just suggesting I’m not saying this is the actual reasons I may be totally wrong. I don’t think we just be looking at other Countries though we don’t know what goes on for a start and from my observation let’s be fair UK are relaxed about many things compared to other places.

FlySheMust

*I imagine some teachers will find the stress too much when schools open and will be off with stress within days. And kids will be sent home.

Perhaps they wouldn't be so stressed if they were allowed PPE and older kids also wore PPE.*

I agree.

And when the heaters go off with stress the same voices on her will be whinging about how teachers are "snowflakes" and how more could be done but teachers didn't push hard enough for it.

Its the same old same old

Bananabread8

I’m just suggesting I’m not saying this is the actual reasons I may be totally wrong. I don’t think we just be looking at other Countries though we don’t know what goes on for a start and from my observation let’s be fair UK are relaxed about many things compared to other places.

That is a switch.

From the start of this, the 'lets get schools back' lobby has been look at all these different counties and they have managed it.

Now that its the UK it is all we should just get on with it and ignore all of the other countries where its gone to shit when the schools have gone back.

So no lets not ignore other countries like Australia or Israel where they just got on with it and its gone to shit.

Lets do it like the other countries where it has gone well and they have maintained SD and worn masks and done all those checks that suddenly will hurt the feelings of our children.

[quote Bananabread8]@MrsHerculePoirot I have worked with Positive cases of Covid-19. Took phone calls of family members and read txts to people who are actually not going to pull through (as they could not visit their own parents to say goodbye). It was soul destroying. Teachers have a possibility of getting COVID-19 they are not looking after kids with POSITIVE test results big big difference. How can you be so sure that you have not had the COVID already??? Or has anxiety got the better of you and you are assuming that you would automatically end up on ICU?[/quote]
My question was about why you think teachers are being ‘entitled’? You still have failed to answer what you meant by this and instead had a rant about me and you projections about my anxiety which is a bit weird?

As I have stated, very many times before Including on this very thread, I am not asking for schools, particularly secondary schools to open safely because I “assume” I’ll end up in ICU, but because if secondary schools open as normal which is essentially what is currently going to happen then it is highly likely that transmission rates will rise, not just in schools, but within communities once again putting massive pressure on services and the NHS.

I’m really unclear as to what your point is here? Many posters have suggested at secondary having a part time blended learning model, or allowing teaching staff to wear visors, or students to wear masks or various combinations and other scenarios. Not sure what you are arguing against as your posts seem very random tbh.

Children in other countries seem to cope with masks. I am sure our kids can too. There was a poster from another thread, or maybe even this one (Mumsnet has become one big school Covid blur to me now...) who said in the US state of Maine kids are given regular mask-free breaks outside. This sounds eminently sensible to me - time out of masks, more exercise & fresh air for everyone. Also a chance to throw open wide classroom windows & doors to ventilate the room before returning to lessons. Good for fitness, health & mental well-being after a shitty year.

Let’s try & think of solutions to make this work rather than just throwing up our hands & saying ‘that will never work here”
Frankly it has to work here if we really want to keep schools open for all & safe as reasonably possible