School drop offs and distancing

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I just can't see the mums I know social distancing at drop Offs and pick ups when schools go back. They all love hanging about and chatting. We will all be shoved together on the roadside which is surely nearer one another than spaced out in the playground. Even with staggered drop offs I can't see it working. Just me..?

Me too, our school is on a main road with a narrow pavement and it is a massive crush going in and out, school have proposed a slightly staggered drop off but there are still going to be hundreds of parents going through the small gates.

The kids won’t socially distance inside anyway so parents doing so is almost pointless

Ours has a pretty good system. Staggered starts, different zones and coloured lines to stand on while dropping off. It helps that we have multiple entrances to school though so more opportunity to space everything out.

My GC'sschool has given the times for the various years. Luckily there's different entrances. They've put in the Email that the Staff will be asking people to disperse outside. In the same way that cars can't park. The Teachers Union has asked for backing, I don't know if they got it. I can't see it being managed everywhere, though.

I think that the government should pledge to keep schools open and everything else shut, if the hospital numbers go up. That might be an incentive to some people to comply.

The kids won’t socially distance inside anyway so parents doing so is almost pointless

It's this sort of attitude that is going to cause causes to rise and schools to be shut again. If everyone wears their masks and tries their best to distance from each other then we've all got a much better chance at keeping schools open.

Parents aren’t doing at day nurseries so why will they for schools?

@OverTheRainbow88

The kids won’t socially distance inside anyway so parents doing so is almost pointless

That doesn't make sense at all, by that logic we might as well scrap social distancing altogther.

You don't really think that because children will be near each other at school adults shouldn't bother with social distance do you? We'll never remove all risk but it would be ridiculous to think that means we don't bother to remove what we can

@OverTheRainbow88

The kids won’t socially distance inside anyway so parents doing so is almost pointless

Oh this is so frustrating. Totally wrong headed approach!

If mum A has the virus asymptomatically but maintains social distance from mum B, even if child A and Child B are in class together there is a chance of it not spreading to the other family.

Because Child A will be off isolating as soon as Mum A shows symptoms which will be BEFORE they can spread it to Child B to take home to Mum B.

Read up on chains of transmission before spouting incorrect information. Dangerous stuff this.

Mum A -> Child A -> Child B -> Mum B takes a lot longer than Mum A -> Child A + Mum B -> Child B. Therefore it can be interrupted.

Protect your families by social distancing. We're doomed because people refuse to get to grips with the basics.

Protect your families by social distancing. We're doomed because people refuse to get to grips with the basics

It's actaully pretty scarey that people like @OverTheRainbow88 are so ignorant of the risks after living with this for nearly 5 months, it's not surprising we have to have local lockdowns if there are other people who also don't have a clue

I’m wondering that too; there just isn’t enough space even with staggered drop offs

Ours worked well when they went back in June, different entrances, different start and end times and clear marks on the pavement to space people out and parents told to drop and leave immediately ready for the next group arriving.

I’m really not ignorant of the risks... when my son went back in June I socially distanced from the other adults dropping off and the teacher wouldn’t come anywhere near me... which is fine and understandable, but once inside the room all the kids played together, didn’t socially distance at all etc so to me yes I do feel like it’s less of an issue to not socially distance from other parents as our kids are licking the same things inside!

So in my mind... if I have covid my kids are very likely to have covid (as we don’t socially distance, we kiss, share drinks etc) so my kid will go in and probs give it to other kids in there who will likely give it to the adults at home!

@OverTheRainbow88

You are wrong.

If a parent is the index case in a family, and has symptoms, it may never arrive in school.

You are completely wrong. Do some reading.

Wasn't there a study which showed spouse- spouse transmission was only 50%, so it's not hard to see that the children may not be infectious even if a parent is.

So much ignorance, still, judging by some of these comments. I won't be approaching the school gates until there is space to do so, even if my children are late getting through the gates.

@Aroundtheworldin80moves

Wasn't there a study which showed spouse- spouse transmission was only 50%, so it's not hard to see that the children may not be infectious even if a parent is.

Yes, and there are some superspreaders, and judging by the stuff above, playgrounds will be prime places for superspreader events!

@OverTheRainbow88

I’m really not ignorant of the risks... when my son went back in June I socially distanced from the other adults dropping off and the teacher wouldn’t come anywhere near me... which is fine and understandable, but once inside the room all the kids played together, didn’t socially distance at all etc so to me yes I do feel like it’s less of an issue to not socially distance from other parents as our kids are licking the same things inside!

So in my mind... if I have covid my kids are very likely to have covid (as we don’t socially distance, we kiss, share drinks etc) so my kid will go in and probs give it to other kids in there who will likely give it to the adults at home!

You really don't understand the risks or mechanics of transmission.

In my mind is not the same as the science of the virus

They all love hanging about and chatting

Tough, they'll have to follow the guidelines like everyone else. Drop and go.

Parents aren’t doing at day nurseries so why will they for schools?

They are at the nursery we use. There are 2 metre lines outside and everyone queues. At the school before summer (my daughter was a key worker child then in Y1 group) everyone queued with big gaps and mostly respected everyone's personal space.

Ok, sorry, my science isn’t the best. However, you’ll be pleased to know that regardless of how I thought it was passed around I’ve always followed the 2m rule and wear a mask inside 👍🏾

Not sure if this mentioned already but why are parents setting foot inside the school anyway? Surely the duty teacher should be standing at the gate PPEd up with point and shoot temperature gauge etc and checking in each child admitted (or rejected on suspected health grounds) attendance registerer with a mobile or tablet app etc?

That's what happened at my child's school pre lockdown but then again I removed child from school earliest preempting lockdown as it was anxious scary and chaotic initially after the spring half term back in March.

Parents (also masked up) ideally should walk towards the school entrance with child observe and wait for confirmation of teacher check-in into school and walk away without gossiping to others in splitting distance. Otherwise yes schools will potentially be the new Covid care home incubator with deadly consequences! Or schools will repeatedly open and close because of Covidiots!

I have to drop off one child at 8.30, one at 8.45, and one at 9.00.

Same again at the end of the day (staggered from 2.30 - 3.00).

That means I will be hanging around the gates, and cold. Doesn’t make sense from an infection control perspective in my opinion.

Not sure if this mentioned already but why are parents setting foot inside the school anyway? Surely the duty teacher should be standing at the gate PPEd up with point and shoot temperature gauge etc and checking in each child admitted (or rejected on suspected health grounds) attendance registerer with a mobile or tablet app etc

Our school isn’t checking temps! And we aren’t going in... dropping off outside

Parents aren’t doing at day nurseries so why will they for schools?

That’s not universal, it’s being handled extremely well at ours, I’ve only seen one other parent (at a 2m+ distance) since DD went back.

With large families and allocated staggered droop off times - may be you should be permitted one allocated timed slot? Say earliest child slot (or latest) as you will be in the same home bubble cross infecting with germs etc anyway. You are going to walk to school in one group so should all checked in at the same time allowing you to leave swiftly to get on with your day with least people contact etc. It's not like you want an adult to walk each child separately to school at different times when you have more than one child at the same school.