Half price food... if you sit in?

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Is this true? You can't take away! Is the government trying to spread covid twice as fast this month? 🤦🏻‍♀️

Might be more productive for the government to support the fitness industry, with subsidised gym membership, clothing and equipment. That would sit better with the link between obesity and COVID than subsidising eating.

Talk about no joined up thinking!

@userxx

Not sarcastic, just curious if people are happy to accept the consequences of not following the guidelines.

What guidlines are not being followed ? I thought meeting up with 6 people outside was allowed from 6th July.

Yes, 2 metres apart. It would have to be an impossibly large table to accommodate six people in such a setup.

@MoreW1ne

Your explanation of track / trace operating differently is possible. I’d assumed it was 15 min/2 meter thing.

But I don’t agree with your laissez fair approach - that everyone meets family / family friends how they think best. For my in-laws on Eid that was four different households, 17 people, socialising indoors for the whole day. Where do you draw the line?

The fact is, it’s extent of transmission of the virus in the summer that will dictate how safe schools will be in the autumn. The more social contacts people have (without distancing) the more unsafe schools will be. It’s a tradeoff which is pub re-closures happened VERY quickly in the US, and the same will happen here.

You can sit outside as well. We had lunch in a pub garden yesterday. 2m away from any other tables- in fact more like 5. Half price and a great deal for us and keeps the pubs in business. If you dont like it nobody is forcing you to go but the pub was much busier than it would usually be on a monday lunchtime so obviously having the desired effect.

I've been out to eat twice since restaurants reopened and am going again tonight. It's fine. It's actually a lot nicer as it's all table service.

I’ve eaten out 3 times since restaurants have opened, first place sat inside staff wore masks, paper menus and cutlery bought out with food, however no hot water to wash hands and you had to walk close to some tables to get to the toilets.

Second place, pub garden, paper menus, cutlery bought out with food but staff didn’t wear masks when carrying the food over.

Third place, last night to take advantage of the offer, our usual curry house, service was terribly slow, only 2 waiters, some tables too close together but people had their backs to each other so maybe that’s ok? Staff wore masks but kept pulling them down and up if they came to your table, table was already laid and wine glasses not used were moved to another table 10 mins after we had sat down. Menus were the usual ones, I doubt they cleaned them as so busy.

I’m not sure we will eat out again.

Yes, 2 metres apart. It would have to be an impossibly large table to accommodate six people in such a setup

Its one metre apart though isnt it, not two.

@SafferUpNorth

Yep, there's no way I'll be eating indoors. No thank you Rishi. Not until schools reopen - our kids' return to relative normality should no be jeopardised for the sake of a half-price burger.

Restaurants do serve other things apart from burgers you know! What a ridiculous thing to say.

Cafes and restaurants have had so many hoops to jump through to reopen. Its has cost them £££ to reduce customer numbers, provide plastic screens, staff have to do twice as much work now to comply with guidelines.

The whole idea is to get the economy moving again. Places cannot survive without customers. Do people really think that keeping indoor eating places closed for months on end without income they will all be there ready to welcome their customers back when random people decide it's 'safe' for them to go get a meal in thier favourite restaurant again? Do you think the owners and staff can live on fresh air?

It's not compulsory if you don't want to go then don't. Takeaways are usually cheaper than sit in meals anyway so crack on. People can go for sit down meals if they chose to if they are happy with the measures taken by their chosen venue. If they arent they can leave its not a contract written in blood.

Not sarcastic, just curious if people are happy to accept the consequences of not following the guidelines.
Who isn't following guidelines? The poster you referred to was sitting outside with friends which is fine. Fed up with people inventing "guidelines" to throw at people just to make themselves feel superior.

@IndiaPlace

Might be more productive for the government to support the fitness industry, with subsidised gym membership, clothing and equipment. That would sit better with the link between obesity and COVID than subsidising eating.

Talk about no joined up thinking!

The issue being, sadly, gyms are even worse in terms of transmission than restaurants!

We ate out for lunch today. Me and dds meal was less than a fiver. A real bargain. Felt very safe aswell.

@userxx

Yes, 2 metres apart. It would have to be an impossibly large table to accommodate six people in such a setup

Its one metre apart though isnt it, not two.

No, it’s 2 metres OR 1m ‘plus’ ie with mitigations such as masks or screens. This governments shitty messaging:

Same for @Willow2017 . Social distancing still applies outside. 2 metres or 1 metre with mitigations. Fed up of lazy thinking.

Round my way today it’s packed with people in restaurants/cafes. Crazy one minute stay alert keep your distance oh and don’t eat fast food because you will be obese and put more pressure on the public purse Jesus can’t make it up.

We are going to eat out tomorrow, I’m glad to get back to some semblance of normality.

redolent Granted the rules have changed quite a lot but I dont believe I've gone against any guidelines - at least not purposely (we have large households). Going to the pub or restaurants with friends/family isn't laissez faire.

These are people's jobs, people's livliehoods, it's a great incentive. I'm guessing those moaning don't have to worry about a downturn of business causing them to lose their home etc. I went yesterday and the measures put in place were great, it's a good way to build people's confidence and see the changes. There is more to life than covid, and you can believe that whilst being sensible and following the guidelines, shocker.

@AuldFox

We are going to eat out tomorrow, I’m glad to get back to some semblance of normality.

I would call it a pretence of normality!

Assuming the bare minimum social distancing (1 metre outside between six different households, with the ‘mitigation’ factor being ventilation), said table would look something this...

@Staplemaple

These are people's jobs, people's livliehoods, it's a great incentive. I'm guessing those moaning don't have to worry about a downturn of business causing them to lose their home etc. I went yesterday and the measures put in place were great, it's a good way to build people's confidence and see the changes. There is more to life than covid, and you can believe that whilst being sensible and following the guidelines, shocker.

I will repeat my husband's business is taking 0% normal income - so please feel free to disagree with the science that clearly shows sitting indoors causes the virus to spread, but don't claim I don't care about the financial impact.

I believe the economic impact of NOT tackling covid is a bigger problem.

@Redolent

Assuming the bare minimum social distancing (1 metre outside between six different households, with the ‘mitigation’ factor being ventilation), said table would look something this...

That is a great table. I might get one.

@MoreW1ne

Please do. It would be safer for all of us.

I believe the economic impact of NOT tackling covid is a bigger problem

Absolutely disagree. Also no idea what business he has, but you probably have more financial stability to enable him to do that than a minimum wage hospitality worker, or someone who has invested their life savings in a restaurant, to be risking losing your home etc for this.

labrynth - yep, get that, I wasn't thinking particularly inside a gym Subsidised bike purchases and staff from gyms to take out cycling groups , subsidising gyms to be able to run outdoor boot camps, helping running clubs. With some financial support more is possible with staffing and location.

What about supporting community gardens - exercise and food, educating.

Would help health, fitness and provide work.

@Staplemaple

I believe the economic impact of NOT tackling covid is a bigger problem

Absolutely disagree. Also no idea what business he has, but you probably have more financial stability to enable him to do that than a minimum wage hospitality worker, or someone who has invested their life savings in a restaurant, to be risking losing your home etc for this.

1. Don't make assumptions about me or my finances!

2. You say you disagree - but based on what? We are hardly booming now, we risk dragging this economic gloom on for much longer because we're not tackling covid at all well.

You are missing the key aim of this policy decision

Literally couldn't give a hoot about your finances, but if you cannot see why for some getting back to work and keeping their jobs is vital for themselves and their families, then you probably aren't in that position. If you are and he could work but is choosing not to because of a virus that is unlikely to affect him statistically, then thats your choice. You staying home is good, as more room for the rest of us who are capable of following guidelines but venturing to support local businesses, and are benefitting from not staying holed up. Covid isn't going anywhere, even in the very unlikely event that we eradicate it completely, we will suffer immeasurably from closing our borders until a vaccination programme (which might never come to fruition).

Covid isn't going anywhere

Exactly. I have no idea why people think it is - we need to live along side it.