What's being said about an over 50s lockdown?

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Is dh kidding me on?

Look on sky news , flipping hope not

OH FFS.
IF you are over 50, they could offer you a screening test to help YOU DECIDE if you want to follow stricter social avoidance rules.

I'm over 50... to judge from the menopause boards I'm a lot healthier than many women in their 30s. Most of us over 50s are still going to be lowest risk band.

over 50's get a personalised risk asessment and might be asked to lockdown.

Isn't that just what they said would happen when they announced sheilding was to be paused? That they knew more about the risks now so any further sheilding would be more personalised on indervidual tisks and children would be unlikely to be asked to sheild again.

Not obvious from the thread title, but being discussed here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3984413-Anyone-get-the-Sunday-telegraph-I-would-like-to-know-about-leaked-enhanced-shielding?msgid=98813058#98813058

Isn't that just what they said would happen when they announced sheilding was to be paused?

Nope, because shielding had no age categories.

Yes, they are looking at whether those being kept on the shielding list (for potential re-activation) should all be there. But they're only doing the 90,000 children so far

I can't think what they're trying to achieve here. If over 50s get an "option" to lockdown, there's no way schools will be able to fully reopen. They must know that.

over 50's get a personalised risk asessment

Who will be doing the risk assessment? If it's online I won't be partaking nor will I adhere to any advice to lock down. I have bills to pay so will carry on regardless.

I won’t be agreeing to that, utter nonsense. Unless they are going to pay me to stay at home on 100% pay.

I think there'd be two camps, people who lose pay and so couldn't/wouldn't follow the advice and those who would still be paid, some of whom will stop at nothing to get the advice to stay at home. lt could absolutely cripple the public sector and would prevent schools reopening IMO. We have roughly 15% of teachers shielding under the recently expired advice.

As an employer should you allow someone who was advised to stay at home to work?

Will impact hugely on schools reopening!

I am over 50 and have type 2 diabetes plus one other long term health problem, so somewhat higher risk category probably.

I have no wish to take up these personalised risk assessments. I don't want to be told to shield. My mental health is shot for a lot of reasons at the moment and that could be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

I like to be sensible, I wear my mask etc. and I am not really a socialiser. I don't want to be dictated to even further though.

I presume that if Boris does choose this option then he will be doing the assessments himself and quarantining himself (again) if required?? After all, he is over 50, as a number of members of his government must be. Or will the rules not apply to them (remembering Dominic Cummings).

I am an over 50 HCP - just like the education system, the NHS would also break down if every over 50 year old considered at 'high risk' were offered/encouraged ongoing shielding.
It's impossible IMO.

Plenty of schools will struggle to reopen if that happens - not just teachers but TAs, learning support, office staff, cleaners ... Lots of schools could potentially lose 15% or so of the workforce. It will practically wipe out my maths depart and a fair proportion of science.

So he wasn't kidding me on??

That would wipe out swathes of the work force, closing many schools and hospitals.

I’m praying this this true. Imagine all those weeks off work without having to socialise.

@Coldspringharbour

I’m praying this this true. Imagine all those weeks off work without having to socialise.

Im guessing it really won’t be true.

They should do it with antibody tests as well and if you have antibodies you don’t have to shield

Remember many even in the vulnerable categories have had it and don’t know

I’ve had it but am pretty sure I’d be classed as vulnerable with a very high bmi. Yet it was nothing for me and it losses me off I have to act as if I can get it or carry it

And yes, there’s no evidence yet that immunity lasts a long time but that’s because it ain’t been around a long time.

Except for dengue fever (the main one) - if you have a virus you either become immune (Antibodies)or get it much less mildly in future (Memory T cells)

People are massively overreacting here.
Boris is considering a range of options should things get serious again. I’m no Boris fan but I’m pleased he is considering different options at least, sounds like a sensible plan. Doesn’t mean it will actually happen.

Although I do think they sometimes leak stuff to the media like this deliberately just to see how the media kicks off about it.

I think there'd be a lot of people who feel like Coldspringharbour provided they still get paid, so who's paying?

I also think, if they were paid, a proportion of people shielding enough they couldn't go to work but not sufficiently to impact their social life.

It obviously isn't going to happen in the way the press is reporting but I wonder what is behind it?

If lots of people age 50 + have to quarantine everything will struggle to stay open, schools, NHS, supermarkets, you could write a list as long as your arm. The vast majority of 50 year olds are still in employment.

They should do it with antibody tests as well and if you have antibodies you don’t have to shield

That was not the advice being given to the shielded community before shielding paused. We were carefully counselled that as too little was known about the duration or nature of immunity, we should make no changes whatsoever in the shielding precautions.

I cannot see that advice changing until much more is known about the immunity (or lack of) that is conferred

I can still WFH as a secondary teacher. Maybe this is a blended learning announcement build-up?

Start people’s state pension at 55. That way it will open up a load more jobs for people who are younger.