Pubs or kids?

[coffeeandllbd]

Whitty said we cannot have it all. Pubs are jobs. School is mental health.

I have a 13 year old struggling with lockdown. I would choose schools. My brother would choose pubs.

Who would you choose?

Maybe the gov has to decide between primary/secondary/sixth form college and the leisure. It doesn't have to be all

@StaffAssociationRepresentative

Maybe the gov has to decide between primary/secondary/sixth form college and the leisure. It doesn't have to be all

But this thread is not about primary/secondary and sixth form it is about the difference between opening pubs or education?

But this thread is not about primary/secondary and sixth form it is about the difference between opening pubs or education?

Actually it said pubs or kids.

We assume education, but it's a large sector. Pubs are part of the hospitality sector. And dumbing down and looking at thr lowest common denominator won't work. It's more complex and nuanced, and whose working education know that different parts of it operate in different ways, are facing different challenges and and have different opportunities to adapt.

Well, I can’t go to the pub unless my kids are at school so I’m in a no win situation!

Pubs are taxes and appeasing folk’s desire to get hammered and not rock the boat
This. Massive amount of tax paid by pubs and some people will riot if they can’t go out and drink. Parents won’t riot if schools don’t open.

You can't tank the economy to try and open schools in unsafe circumstances
Tank the economy and there won’t be enough income from tax to pay for schools anyway.

Pubs could convert to takeaway.

Schools are mental health and child care for workers.

Both. What a ridiculous trade off to propose. Also, if this is actually in the pipeline why on earth are they currently encouraging people to head out with the 'Eat Out to Help Out' scheme?

So thoroughly fucked off with this shit show now. At what point is the penny going to drop that we simply have to move forward, especially when the VAST majority who contact this virus experience very mild symptoms if any

The Eat Out to Help Scheme is only for August

The point is they aren’t going to invest £3.8 billion encouraging people to eat out and then close those businesses again.

Maybe pubs could close at an earlier time, say 8pm, to encourage people to eat and go home before they get bladdered and start shagging or fighting each other.

@DressingGownofDoom I think they have done that in some countries.

I really think they need to enforce social distancing more in pubs etc. I know some are doing it really well and they need to be smarter with test and trace, so people need to provide a form of ID, the amount of idiots on here who say they give a false name/phone number and think they are clever. Might not think they are so clever if their favourite pub/restaurant has to close.

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Massive amount of tax paid by pubs and some people will riot if they can’t go out and drink.

The summer riots and civil disorder stopped when the pubs opened back up. It probably played a part in their eagerness to get the pubs open.

It will certainly create resentment between those with children and those without who see their liberties being taken away again.

@StaffAssociationRepresentative

It will certainly create resentment between those with children and those without who see their liberties being taken away again.

Especially as schools could teach remotely but those without children can’t work from home in all jobs so will be penalised for making different lifestyle choices.

Far better we have a health service and economy for children with learning going on from home than schools and nothing left when they leave.

If Schools do not reopen, the impact on women's equality will be enormous

Remote learning is significantly less effective, particularly for primary pupils, doesn’t cater for the social needs of children which are so important, leaves vulnerable children flying under the radar and requires a parent willing and able to facilitate it.

Closed schools will not stop resentment. The opposite. A huge failing.

Especially if it is not equal access. We’d have to move on from two tier situation and provide same for all.

If Schools do not reopen, the impact on women's equality will be enormous

This.

It’s also a disaster for single parents and will result in rocketing levels of child poverty and homelessness.

Schools.

Pubs could still do outside spaces.

@LaurieMarlow

Remote learning is significantly less effective, particularly for primary pupils, doesn’t cater for the social needs of children which are so important, leaves vulnerable children flying under the radar and requires a parent willing and able to facilitate it.

The only facilitating my children needed was making sure they were out of bed, otherwise they got on with what was set themselves. One primary, one secondary. For some students, parental facilitating is needed, but by no means all.

For some students, parental facilitating is needed, but by no means

The vast, vast majority of primary school students need significant facilitation. That’s obvious.

I’m sure some older children can get on with it, but what kind of educational experience is that for them, on their own, in front of a screen all day?

And what about practical subjects?

"Remote learning is significantly less effective"

No, it's not.

No, it's not.

Of course it is, how ridiculous.