What will schools do when kids get the inevitable temperatures over winter?

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Won't they be having to close down every 5 minutes? So many will get temperatures over autumn/winter as they always do. Or will the schools just rely on people getting kids tested ASAP and then close for 2 weeks if someone tests positive? I'm struggling to see how it will work in practice

Ds's bubble will sent home every time someone has symptoms as there is no social distancing in it. It will only be advice to self isolate till person with symptoms has negative result ( since it is not required unless positive result) but school will not be open for anyone in the bubble until then.

A child at my sons nursery tested positive. The child had a temperature and was sent home and then got a test at home. When the nursery found out she was positive they contacted the child's bubble and they were told to isolate for 2 weeks, all the other children could go back. Not sure if that will be similar in school? Although would be a lot more disruptive if it was a whole class or year group. Most schools check children's temperatures on entry now as well don't they?

Realistically though how often does your child have a high temperature? Coughs and sniffles maybe often but rarely have my dc had temperatures

With mine I'd expect about twice each child per autumn/winter, but when younger dd1had frequent tonsillitis so was getting temperatures all the time.

Are all schools checking kids temperatures on the gate then? I don't see how that can be administered without queues which would lead to more problems and also risky for whoever is given that job

@Underhisi

Ds's bubble will sent home every time someone has symptoms as there is no social distancing in it. It will only be advice to self isolate till person with symptoms has negative result ( since it is not required unless positive result) but school will not be open for anyone in the bubble until then.

Its my understanding that my dc school will also do the same..... the whole bubble sent home until said child gets a negative result and then they can return. However it does bother me that as some PP have said they won't test their dc if they show symptoms and just isolate anyway to avoid the trauma of the test, that it will mean children in the bubble at home unnecessarily.

Most schools check children's temperatures on entry now as well don't they?

Not that I’m aware of. Mine certainly isn’t.

If a child has a temperature, they don’t come in

Hahaha!

We were literally have to throw kids put on the last day before lockdown (secondary school) because even the ones whose parents had phoned them in sick with Covid symptoms earlier in the week thought it would be a great idea to rock up and see their mates before it all went to hell in a handcart.

But naturally school staff are at next to no increased risk...

Most schools check children's temperatures on entry now as well don't they?

We were doing this for Y10/Y12 partial opening. Won’t be happening I. September though - guidance says it’s not necessary.

Yeah my boss is going to love this
I’m not allowed my phone on me at work. It stays in the locker- so no way id even know if school want me
He’s really going to let me go and pick my kid up while I’ve got my own patients waiting to see me - not
Once possibly if it’s an emergency but no way will it be ‘immediately’ and definitely not twice

I think it will start strict and then it will all go out of the window by November

@BKCRMP

I think it will start strict and then it will all go out of the window by November

Schools will be shut by November

@Heatherjayne1972 Does your child’s school not have your work contact number? I’m a teacher. I also cannot have my phone on my person. My children’s school have my work place number and I am contacted this way. If your child is ill you will have to collect them, likewise I will have to collect mine and all other parents will.

The government wanted schools opened fully, to do this we have to follow the guidance. I wish all parents would read it and be aware of what will need to happen for a full return.

@CarrieBlue it's quite clear there will in no way be a school shut down again this year. Maybe in a few localised areas but certainly nowhere near this scale. It will just all be brushed under the carpet

@motherrunner. Yes they have my details
I just don’t have the sort of job where you can just leave - for any reason
In the past I’ve had to call another family member - but if it’s me and only me that can collect they’ll be waiting until I’ve finished my shift
Sick days for myself are almost impossible unless I’m throwing up or incapacitated somehow

@BKCRMP

I think it will start strict and then it will all go out of the window by November

Our HT seem to be working on the assumption it'll be business as usual by the end of September!

They should only be closing if there is a confirmed outbreak of covid, meaning 2 or more positive cases, not because of vague symptoms which could belong to any virus. Even then, only the classes with positive children should be kept off for an isolation period, otherwise what is the point of the bubbles? The rest of the school should only be kept off long enough for a deep clean before returning.

[quote BelleSausage]@commentatorz

This is not the ‘least bad’. This is the actual worst case scenario. It will lead to massive loss of learning, disruption of routines and complete chaos in schools.

My head has been very clear that this is a shit plan. And that there are a hundred different versions of the plan that are better than this. Ask any head teacher. They are hog tied by the guidance.

I wish we had broadcast the staff meeting we had (online) to all the parents as well. Then they might understand how utterly impossible, ridiculous and unachievable the plan is.[/quote]
⬆️ agree with this. This is a really bad plan.

It sounded great visit was easiest to explain but it's garbage.

The government tell us our children will be in a 'bubble.' It's complete nonsense and they know it is. Teachers will do their best to keep each 'bubble' away from every other 'bubble,' but every student, teacher and staff member in the school will be touching the same doors, the same stair rail etc. And the aerosols that are breathed out stay in the air for up to an hour. So if one 'bubble' uses a corridor that was used by another 'bubble' five minutes ago, they'll be breathing in the aerosols that are still in the air. There is only one 'bubble' in the school. It's the 'bubble' that contains every student, teacher and member of staff. Also, it's usually five days before people start showing symptoms, so if someone tests positive they will have been in this massive 'bubble' for almost a week. Our schools are being used as a massive petri dish. Government say there have been very few cases amongst children, but most of the info they have is taken from a time when the schools were closed and we all had our kids inside. I think it's going to be a very scary autumn.

[quote BKCRMP]@CarrieBlue it's quite clear there will in no way be a school shut down again this year. Maybe in a few localised areas but certainly nowhere near this scale. It will just all be brushed under the carpet[/quote]
It wouldn't surprise me if they announced that actually children aren't actually carriers of the virus so it's safe for all to return as normal without the need for testing and isolating to keep schools open and hope for the best tbh

There is only one 'bubble' in the school. It's the 'bubble' that contains every student, teacher and member of staff.

Well said.

@BKCRMP Schools absolutely will shut down - once staff are ill or isolating there will be no other option. It happened before lockdown when there were too few staff available. I did not say a countrywide shutdown but there will be schools closed, despite what Them4Us reckon.

@CarrieBlue schools won't be allowed to allow all their staff off isolating. March was different as it was new and a very last minute thing. It won't be allowed to be repeated come September.

[quote BKCRMP]@CarrieBlue schools won't be allowed to allow all their staff off isolating. March was different as it was new and a very last minute thing. It won't be allowed to be repeated come September.[/quote]
What do you mean?

Yes, it’s unlikely that schools would have ALL their staff off isolating at once, but if you have a few members of staff across several years groups, you might well have to close the school. You need well teachers to teach classes. If people are dropping like flies, no supply teacher is going to want to go into the school. Who would teach the children?