No sympathy for people who booked a recent holiday

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Headlines this morning have got me cross. People who are 'devastated' that their holiday to Spain that they booked last week won't go ahead as they can't quarantine on return and lost all their money.
How stupid to book a holiday when you know it is a risk. We were going to go away and had not booked anything as was leaving it till the last minute. . We still could but I would not expect my work to pay for me in quarantine on top of two weeks away. It is understandable if I had booked before the pandemic but why should a firm pay for quarantine for those who knowingly knew it may be a risk.
I have full sympathy for those that booked before the pandemic and at least they will be insured. But c'mon how can you be upset that you have lost your money for a holiday you booked last week and now can't go on due to quarantine?

oh piss off with this shit.

people are having/had a hard enough time as it is without others adding their unwanted opinions.

some people are just absolutely loving this - couldnt wait to say "I told you so" or start dribbling over a second wave coming.

get a life OP.

Why are people having a go at the OP. If you want a break, maybe staycation for the time being? If you can afford to be quarantined for 2 weeks on return, i.e no issues with your employer or you don’t work, then fine book that trip abroad. Otherwise think carefully before you book.

That’s not a nice attitude op
We are suffering in one way or another with this virus
Don’t take pleasure in other people’s misery

Agree with RussellBrand:

"Exactly. Not all of us have been furloughed watching Netflix on the sofa for the last 3 months. Some of us have been working 10 hours a day non stop. But yes, God forbid we should need a break or a holiday and good that it’s been ruined for those people eh? "

Dh and I have worked constantly.
No cleaning, no sunbathing, no odd jobs around the house.
Furlough? It's been no holiday for us!

Some of the guys at my work who have this week been asked to come back this week have almost refused, saying they are happy to stay off till furlough finishes in October!

What I wouldn't give for a weeks Spanish sun all inclusive, right now!

Of course I'm not. But you get my drift.

Holidays abroad are non essential trips.

said who? People have family abroad, people they want to see. Not everyone can afford a holiday in Britain this summer either, and there's more to life that being stuck at home paying the bills and doing nothing.

I agree. How can people not realise that this was a risk? Also they have higher chance of catching it when abroad which also means 2 weeks quarantine. Dont give your kids false hope or, you know, put them in danger.

@Giningit because the OP wants to get a reaction out of people - quite clearly otherwise why would they have posted this? I daresay they've got the reaction they wanted from most of us

Does the world have to grind to a haunt because of a virus that has killed some people.

If precautions aren't taken, it'll kill a hell of a lot more and ruin the health of even greater numbers.

We don't need to "grind to a halt", but we do need to find the middle ground of continuing to function whilst keeping a lid on covid.

Foreign holidays aren't essential. Going to work IS essential. Kids going to school IS essential. Far too many people have their priorities wrong.

Hopefully, we'll have a vaccine soon and then we can move forward. 2020 is a write off year in many ways.

It’s not just quarantine it’s FCO advice to mainland Spain changing. Worth checking insurance.

@giggly Well said

@SantaClaritaDiet ridiculous because the airlines cancel the flights under these circumstances generally. It's not about being lucky enough to be able to do the quarantine.

I agree with you OP. I don't think.this is a nasty.post at all. I can't understand how people felt.co.portable going abroad right now,.especially to Spain over the last week or so. People don't need a holiday abroad whilst we are in the middle of a pandemic,.so no I'm not.going to feel sorry for them either.

I’m with you OP. People so desperately needing a break could have holidayed in the UK.

• Pointing out that some people have behaved really stupidly isn't nasty. Some people need to know they're stupid because the world is full of enablers telling idiots that they're 'quite right' when I'm actual fact, they're really not. Booking under the current circumstances is nothing short of utterly ridiculous. Pointing that out isn't nasty.*

^Totally agree. Trying to make me feel bad for pointing out that people need to take personal responsibility for making unwise decisions is never going to work.

@Veganforlife where does the OP take pleasure would you say?

[quote sonicbook]@GilderoyLockdown can you explain how it's nasty? Pointing out that some people have behaved really stupidly isn't nasty. Some people need to know they're stupid because the world is full of enablers telling idiots that they're 'quite right' when I'm actual fact, they're really not.

Booking under the current circumstances is nothing short of utterly ridiculous. Pointing that out isn't nasty. [/quote]
Gladly.

She has no idea what the circumstances were that led people to book (so the assessment that they were being stupid, when she doesn't actually know what process led them to that, isn't particularly bright behaviour by her). While she can't control her initial response of irritation, she can control the decision to post all about it. People who are in that position, whose lives and decisions she has no way of knowing whether she actually understands, may very well read this thread and be more upset by it. But apparently starting a bunfight was more important. That is why it was nasty.

so no I'm not.going to feel sorry for them either

Specifically who is asking you to? Have people told you they expect lashings of sympathy or for you to contribute to a gofundme for a holiday later in the yer? are they texting you non stop expecting virtual hugs due to their "devastation"? No. You or the OP has read one dumb daily mail headline about people being "devastated" (because newspapers NEVER exaggerate anything for effect do they?!) and gone off on a nasty little miserable rant.

Literally NOONE is asking for your mouldy, embittered sympathy.

It's unwarranted air travel that has circulated this virus around the globe.

People need to be held accountable for the insatiable need for flying on holiday and the environmental damage it is doing to the planet.

What a smug and horrible post OP, have you nothing better to do? Of course people are upset and they have every right to be. I'm going on holiday today; thankfully I don't live in England so our rules are different, and I would be able to quarantine on return anyway if I had to. I'd be devastated too if I couldn't go, and I'd have been able to get my money back.

[quote sonicbook]@SantaClaritaDiet ridiculous because the airlines cancel the flights under these circumstances generally. It's not about being lucky enough to be able to do the quarantine. [/quote]
sonicbook
everybody who wanted to come home managed in March/April during the lockdown, and foreign countries have no interest on keeping tourists and won't lock them in as already proven.

It's hardly WW2 when there was a risk to be away for months or years...

It can make for a much tricky return and not your scheduled one, but if people agreed it was still worth it as opposed to be locked home again for months, it was worth it.

@Undervaluedandsad I have sympathy for you because you booked pre-pandemic so couldn’t have forseen this situation.

I notice no one claiming it was stupid to go to Spain has addressed my point that Grant Shapps, the Transport Secretary, is in Spain and will need to quarantine on his return. Nor have they explained why they are holding the general public to a higher standard than the man responsible for transport in the UK.

I suppose to do so would spoil their narrative that those who travelled are uninformed while they themselves are far superior

Grant Shapps is beyond stupid. HTH

Totally agree. Trying to make me feel bad for pointing out that people need to take personal responsibility for making unwise decisions is never going to work.

Whether you feel bad and whether it was nasty are separate issues. As the person who afaik introduced the term nasty to the discussion, I can confirm I had no interest in trying to make you or anyone else feel a particular way and still don't.

So many companies have made the news stating they were not reopening offices, not accepting workers until September/December/2021... there are thousands of people WFH, who haven't stopped and haven't even got a choice to go back to the office.

A quarantine is really not a huge deal for everybody either.

So current circumstances are not such a headache and worth gloating like the OP does.. sorry to disappoint you OP.

I'm with you OP. Not gloating, and feel genuinely sorry for those that had holidays booked pre vivid and had them cancelled, but if they booked recently then they knew the risks.

I'm a keyworker and we were warned that if we booked a holiday and ended up needing to quarantine on return it may have to come from annual leave.