Not sure if I would have the vaccination or not

[Pinkyyy]

Just that really.

I'm not sure that I would feel comfortable having a vaccination given that they whole world is in a race to create it and I would be scared that somewhere or another, corners had been cut and not all of the side effects were known.

Is there any information anyone has seen that's helped them make a decision regarding this? I haven't followed any of the vaccine talk.

Also I feel I should point out I haven't had any of my vaccines (not even as a child) so it would be a big step for me to have it and I'm very anxious.

I don't rely on other people

Of course you do! You're relying on being protected by other people's vacciinations being up to date ie herd immunity.

I guess you've realised you're as likely to get covid as anyone else. But with a vaccine you probably won't.

You sound quite young and confused.

You sound quite young and confused

I've just laughed my way through most of this thread, but this is probably one of the most stupid comments on it.

Seriously, people on here spouting rubbish and using the selfish argument and you call the OP 'young'.

Stop for a minute and consider what you're all claiming. You think the OP is letting you all down (and society) for not playing their part in herd immunity/protecting others. You really thing blaming her parents for not doing some vaccinations and calling her selfish will convince her to 'step up'.

You're just making yourselves look silly.

So are people who can't be vaccinated going to be abused the same way that people who can't wear masks are now? Screamed at that we're selfish and that there should be no exceptions?

It is also based on an already developed and tested vaccine, in the case of the Oxford one, as well as using a very standard and often used vaccine vector, only a small bit of the sequence will have chnaged to target sars cov 2 more specifically. To me, that makes it pretty likely to be as safe as most other vaccines.

The OP is now an adult with her own mind.

She can now decide to have her vaccinations, but is “happy without them”. Of course she is, she’s relying on the herd immunity, and others doing their bit.

Of course she hasn’t got that with coronavirus so is now “all confused”.

She’s the one who is looking silly here.

The “theory” that MMr caused autistim has been proven to be bolloxs.

It is experienced as significantly offensive by autistic people and their families.

@Pinkyyy

I'm over this now you're just saying the same stuff. I don't rely on other people and I'm not selfish.

You were not interested in what people had to say unless it fit your narrative.

What you don’t want to hear is that the anti-vaxers cause real damage. Because that would make you feel bad.

@MoreW1ne

You sound quite young and confused

I've just laughed my way through most of this thread, but this is probably one of the most stupid comments on it.

Seriously, people on here spouting rubbish and using the selfish argument and you call the OP 'young'.

Stop for a minute and consider what you're all claiming. You think the OP is letting you all down (and society) for not playing their part in herd immunity/protecting others. You really thing blaming her parents for not doing some vaccinations and calling her selfish will convince her to 'step up'.

You're just making yourselves look silly.

Thank you for that, I'm not young and stupid.

What on earth has abortions got to do with this thread OP?

Is that how you justify this in your head?

Now you’re just embarrassing yourself.

I doubt any regulatory authority would risk releasing any vaccines this year or next, to do so would mean their trial phases have been drastically cut.

Just imagine the outcry if there were serious side effects? not only wrecking faith in the next CV vaccine but in all other current and future vaccine programs.

So are people who can't be vaccinated going to be abused the same way that people who can't wear masks are now? Screamed at that we're selfish and that there should be no exceptions?

Who has said that?

Anti vaxxers put people who can’t be vaccinated in danger.

It is all about personal decisions based on individual risk assessment. Everyone has a different risk threshold but often we don't think systematically about what we might find acceptable. So for example a 1 in 55,000 risk for me is entirely acceptable compared with the risk of potential complications of Covid. I think part of the complications of Covid is that although some groups are at higher risk of complications this is not predicable and some people seemingly randomly suffer very serious complications. This colours our ability to judge risk. For example I know many over 70's who had very mild cases and then 2 young fit people age 40 who were very ill.
OP, I would encourage you to do some reading and thinking about what level of risk is acceptable to you- it will help inform your decision.

@Pinkyyy

What you don’t want to hear is that the anti-vaxers cause real damage. Because that would make you feel bad.

I don't feel bad.

Abortions cause more death.

What’s that got to do with anything?

I think the OP just outed themselves as a troll.

An anti-vaxxer and anti abortion. I’m starting to feel like I’m at a trump rally.

You were not asking for opinions. You only wanted to hear people who agreed with your nonsense.

The government won’t be forcing the vaccine on you and you aren’t special. Carry on.

OP vaccination has saved billions of lives. You may be benefitting from the herd immunity for many childhood illnesses but you are not infallible and the side effects of many of these illnesses are much much worse than the minor chance of an allergic reaction. You’ve been lucky so far. Even if you are young covid could be fatal and has been shown to have long lasting damaging effects on the body. It’s not had corners cut in its testing it’s just moving faster because a lot of other scheduled trials have been sidelined to make room for it.

With every post you sound more selfish and individualistic.

@BigChocFrenzy

"How would it be possible to prove you have or haven't had the vaccine? "

In Germany, I have a vaccination book with my basic details on it
and each vaccination I receive gets a sticky there, with the stamp of the GP practice, signature and date

Do you need to show that every time you book an activity or holiday abroad to prove you have been vaccinated?

@SunbathingDragon

How would it be possible to prove you have or haven't had the vaccine? It will be taken at word if you have had it or not.

In the U.K. vaccinations go on your medical records. That information would stand up in court.

How many covid cases are going to end up in court though?

@HeresMe

Whilst I'm not a antivaxxer by any means people assuming vaccines are safe , the first polio vaccine didnt go to well and had to be abandoned due to paralysis. And not a vaccine remember the morning sickness drug thalidomide.

I will be having it, it just needs to be ensure its fully tested and not rushed.

But wasn't that in 1955 things have advanced since then

@defenbaker - I do get colds, mostly minor, but in general I have one absolute stinker each year. I have never had flu in my life - I now get the jab (because I have diabetes), but for my first 40 years, it was just me and my immune system which meant I didn’t get it.

And not a vaccine remember the morning sickness drug thalidomide.

in the wake of which, the regulations around testing and approving medications were massively tightened up.

Was just talking to DH about this before l stumbled across this thread. I would have it without a doubt. If only so l wouldn't have to wear masks and social bloody distance all the time!

OhDear2200 posted:

"The “theory” that MMr caused autistim has been proven to be bolloxs.

It is experienced as significantly offensive by autistic people and their families."

@OhDear2200 Yes, I know that the theory was discredited, but I think it caused many people to question the safety of vaccines, and was a big factor in the rise of the anti vaxxer movement. I apologise for any offence caused, I only mentioned it in the context that OP's parents chose not to have her vaccinated and she seems uneasy about vaccines. I'm not anti vaccines, but have my reservations about the flu vaccine, for reasons discussed above. (I'd probably feel very differently if I'd ever had the flu though.)

I feel optimistic about the new vaccine and am keeping my fingers crossed that it will be available by the end if the year.