Not sure if I would have the vaccination or not

[Pinkyyy]

Just that really.

I'm not sure that I would feel comfortable having a vaccination given that they whole world is in a race to create it and I would be scared that somewhere or another, corners had been cut and not all of the side effects were known.

Is there any information anyone has seen that's helped them make a decision regarding this? I haven't followed any of the vaccine talk.

Also I feel I should point out I haven't had any of my vaccines (not even as a child) so it would be a big step for me to have it and I'm very anxious.

The vaccine won't be compulsory so no-one will make you have it.
I'm over 60 with serious health conditions and I'd have it tomorrow. I read that the next phase trial will want older people with underlying health conditions to volunteer. Ive registered my interest on the Zoe app but can't find anything specific.
OP how do you feel about drugs? If you are ill do you take anything? What if you developed a serious illness such as Parkinson's or Rheumatoid arthritis, would you take the drug?

A man on lbc was talking about the vaccine and although people can refuse to have it etc it will stop people doing things: without it you may not be able to go to work or shopping or the pub or anywhere abroad!
Fine if you really are not bothered about doing any of those things but as most people are , then they will have to have it!
It's a bit worrying I think, but who knows?

Funny kind of informed decision if you haven't even had childhood vaccinations

Suppose you we about to die of starvation , there were 2 jars each full of 100 sweets. One jar contains one poisoned sweet, the other jar contains 10.
Which jar would you choose a sweet from?

So why don't you have the childhood vaccines? Yes you might get a negative reaction, but you are much more likely to be negatively affected by the illnesses they protect against. Ok things like measles you are benefitting from everyone else's actions , so it's selfishly rational perhaps, provided you are within the uk, but tetanus?

@Pinkyyy

I really don't understand why you would struggle with the decision not to have your childhood vaccinations What's difficult to understand?

We don’t because we aren’t virologists or epidemiologists or any other type of scientist. I trust the science.
Believe in people who know MORE THAN YOU DO about this topic. You are not an expert.
I know I'm not an expert, but as far as coronavirus goes, the experts have not always been right. It's not that I don't trust that they can make a vaccine, it's that there's no way of knowing for sure how it will affect me personally. I could be the 1 in 55,000.

How do you know you won't be the 1 in xxx (probably less than 1 in 55,000) that will have serious side effects from covid though? My friend has chronic fatigue syndrome like symptoms after getting covid in March and I think that is probably far more common than the 1 in 55000 who developed narcolepsy after the swine flu vaccine.

Think back to the sacrifices we all made this year. Whether that be losing family members or suffering ill health due to Covid. Whether that is financial, job losses, mental health issues, children missing out on time with their friends, schools closing, exams cancelled, holidays cancelled, businesses going under... seriously we have just scratched the surface. The full effects of the Covid pandemic won't be known for a long time. It's been a complete and total tragedy.

If a vaccine is available, and proves to be effective and safe, why on earth would you not want to get it. We should be moving heaven and earth to prevent further suffering?

although people can refuse to have it etc it will stop people doing things: without it you may not be able to go to work or shopping or the pub or anywhere abroad!
I didn't know that, I guess that takes the choice away somewhat for me as I like to do all of those things.

Ok things like measles you are benefitting from everyone else's actions , so it's selfishly rational perhaps
What's selfish about it? I've had the measles.

My friend has chronic fatigue syndrome like symptoms after getting covid in March and I think that is probably far more common than the 1 in 55000 who developed narcolepsy after the swine flu vaccine
I didn't know that could happen. Thanks for that information, it definitely helps.

Opinion is quite split OP, however most against have been on here for previous threads so unlikely to come back...

You've probably realised by now but its exactly the place for a reasoned discussion. People making stupid comparisons to seat belts and sweets.

Since half the posters admit they cant understand why you'd be against getting your childhood vaccinations they're hardly useful opinions worth listening to. People with little empathy rarely suggest useful things.

Forced vaccines are years off as well so I wouldn't worry about that rubbish. There wont be enough to go around at the start, let alone the legislation in place required for a while, even if a government was inclined for that route.

I'd say you've got at least 12-18months to wait and see how things develop before feeling any real pressure. (Oh and you might as well wait that long as it will let those others 'step up'. How will they get through the day if you dont allow them their feeling of moral superiority...doing them a favour waiting really).

@totalitarian I've thought about that, I really have. That's why I made this thread to hopefully gain some knowledge and assure myself that it's safe. It's something I'm very anxious about and people are focusing on the childhood vaccinations when I only mentioned that to give perspective on why I'm so nervous.

@MoreW1ne

Opinion is quite split OP, however most against have been on here for previous threads so unlikely to come back...

You've probably realised by now but its exactly the place for a reasoned discussion. People making stupid comparisons to seat belts and sweets.

Since half the posters admit they cant understand why you'd be against getting your childhood vaccinations they're hardly useful opinions worth listening to. People with little empathy rarely suggest useful things.

Forced vaccines are years off as well so I wouldn't worry about that rubbish. There wont be enough to go around at the start, let alone the legislation in place required for a while, even if a government was inclined for that route.

I'd say you've got at least 12-18months to wait and see how things develop before feeling any real pressure. (Oh and you might as well wait that long as it will let those others 'step up'. How will they get through the day if you dont allow them their feeling of moral superiority...doing them a favour waiting really).

Thank you so much, you've really understood my position. I'm realising that now, people are only concerned with calling me selfish for not having had my childhood vaccinations.

It's comforting to know that were such a long way off, that was one of my main concerns in that how could they possibly test it properly in just a few months. I'll gladly move aside to let others go before me.

Not having the measles vaccine could be considered selfishly rational as it removes any vaccine risk and if everyone around you has had the vaccine, it also removes the chance of you getting measles, never mind getting a serious measles case which could be fatal

I guess I am surprised that anyone thinks that no one bothered to do a risk benefit analysis before spending money vaccinating children , and I am surprised that if people are really unsure they should just go to the original research not a random forum

@gettingreadytogo

Not having the measles vaccine could be considered selfishly rational as it removes any vaccine risk and if everyone around you has had the vaccine, it also removes the chance of you getting measles, never mind getting a serious measles case which could be fatal

That seems very strange to me. If people are happy with their vaccinations, why would I be selfish for not having one? They've eliminated the risk to themselves and surely whatever happens to me is my problem.

@Pinkyyy ok you wasnt vaccinated against measles, contracted it and lived to tell the tale that's brilliant. Doesnt mean if you dont have the covid vaccine and you get it you will also live to tell the tale, no one knows, that's a chance we all take.

As I have no comorbidities and am under 50, I'm at the back of the queue for vaccination thankfully. I can see how the guinea pigs get on first! Plenty of vaccines have been withdrawn so I don't accept that passing rushed trials means it's fine. I've had c19 and it was very mild in me.

I wouldn't get it. I don't need it. In the same way I don't need the flu vaccine.

[quote Uhoh2020]@Pinkyyy ok you wasnt vaccinated against measles, contracted it and lived to tell the tale that's brilliant. Doesnt mean if you dont have the covid vaccine and you get it you will also live to tell the tale, no one knows, that's a chance we all take.[/quote]
I know that, but as the the effects on someone my age are not usually fatal from covid, I feel I've got time to think about it. As @Thateverlastingyes77 pointed out

I absolutely would. It’s been developed by scientists far more intelligent than I, and it has gone through testing. I’ll take my chances with science over covid!

if you want a guarantee of totally safe forget it, life doesn't work like that.

you are fucking fortunate that you live in a world without smallpox and a country without polio. I realise this is your parents' fault, shame on them for not protecting you, but please investigate getting some of the jabs.

too late for the TB jab, probably, there's an age limit on that. If you tread on anything sharp don't refuse a tetanus injection. If you ever go to Asia make sure you've had typhoid, diptheria and polio jabs.

@okiedokieme and @Youhavesomethinginyourteeth glad to know that others are thinking the same way! Helps me out somewhat. Perhaps the best option is to see how it goes for a while and then decide based on that, some may call that selfish but it's up to every individual whether they want it or not.

@Pinkyyy I'm just saying dont assume because you survived 1 illness you wasnt vaccinated against that you would automatically survive this 1. Different illnesses different vaccines different affects on the body.

Tbh I can't see it being mandatory, it could never be enforceable. Youd think that the vaccine will be prioritised for those vulnerable or susceptible to viruses before it's open to everyone anyway so theres a long time for all of us to make that decision.

How on earth does not understanding anti vaxxers equal a lack of empathy?

Tbh I can't see it being mandatory

I can't see it being mandatory, but I can certainly seeing it being forced if you want access to schools, travel, clubs, activities, all sorts. The amount of fear of covid that's been created among so many would have lots of people making it a requirement without a legal obligation.

Your parents didn't have you vaccinated; instead they gave you anxiety about them.
That's what you need to address here.

I cannot believe you are worried about beingt the 1 in 55,000 to get bad effects from the covid vaccine when you aren’t vaccinated for anything. You have a lot more pressing things to worry about. The mind boggles.