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Not sure if I would have the vaccination or not

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Pinkyyy · 21/07/2020 12:57

Just that really.

I'm not sure that I would feel comfortable having a vaccination given that they whole world is in a race to create it and I would be scared that somewhere or another, corners had been cut and not all of the side effects were known.

Is there any information anyone has seen that's helped them make a decision regarding this? I haven't followed any of the vaccine talk.

Also I feel I should point out I haven't had any of my vaccines (not even as a child) so it would be a big step for me to have it and I'm very anxious.

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Pinkyyy · 21/07/2020 17:47

@Wishfulthinking1977 it really does affect everyone differently doesn't it, one of the main reasons I'm put off having them.

@ineedaholidaynow I'm pretty sure state schools can't refuse children an education because they're not vaccinated? If so, it must be uncommon.

I've never had a flu jab either. Do you have to have another one every year? I really think it's ridiculous to call someone selfish for not being vaccinated.

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FuckyNel · 21/07/2020 17:51

You have had the measles and were ok but what if unknowingly you passed it on to someone who subsequently became very ill? This is why anyone who can have vaccinations should have them.

sugarLevelbabymilk · 21/07/2020 17:53

I would wait till it’s been out a while if one became available and make a decision then

SengaStrawberry · 21/07/2020 17:56

I really think it's ridiculous to call someone selfish for not being vaccinated.

What do you think vaccination does? It assists in providing immunity at a population level for some horrid illnesses. Everyone who can be vaccinated should be vaccinated as that’s what protects society from these illnesses. It will be the same when we get a Covid vaccjne. I think unless there are health reasons why someone can’t be vaccinated it’s silly, ignorant and selfish not to be. Just go and get some bloody vaccines ffs. You’re nothing special compared to the millions of people who have had them without consequence.

SengaStrawberry · 21/07/2020 17:59

@FuckyNel

You have had the measles and were ok but what if unknowingly you passed it on to someone who subsequently became very ill? This is why anyone who can have vaccinations should have them.
Exactly.

Did you not also feel a bit stupid and a bit angry with yourself that for the sake of a prick in the arm with a needle you could have been spared that illness? Also it might still have effects years later. You could still develop serious complications

TheId · 21/07/2020 17:59

I've had it as part of the Oxford trial
(Or rather there's a 50:50 chance I had it as it's a double blind trial)

I'm taking the risk so you can feel reassured. By the time it gets to the general population 10,000 of us volunteers will already have had it so you can see if any of us drop dead and if it's worth having.

It's being done quickly but no corners are getting cut. It's all standard trial procedures and feels very safe and professional to me. We are recording any side effects and having weekly monitoring.

Life's a risk: benefit balance. For me I think the risk is very low vs the possibility of being able to 100% safely give my mum a hug.

Illusionordelusion · 21/07/2020 18:03

Don’t have it and just rely on the herd immunity that you’re already benefitting from, from other people’s childhood vaccinations.

Why even ask? You’re clearly not comfortable with it and you’ve probably inherited your parents anxiety over vaccinations. What is it that you want from us mumsnetters?

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Pinkyyy · 21/07/2020 18:04

With respect, I started this thread to ask for information about the coronavirus vaccine, not to explain why I'm unvaccinated against other illnesses. I've already stated that I've considered having the rest and up to now I'm happy without them.

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firstimemamma · 21/07/2020 18:08

Yanbu op. I think I'd at least give it a few months instead of having it right away. I fully respect everyone has different views on this subject though.

firstimemamma · 21/07/2020 18:09

I'd deffo get up to date on your missing childhood vaccinations op! I didn't read that bit at first! Very important.

GreenTulips · 21/07/2020 18:10

I also think you’re selfish.

You are solely relying on other people taking the risk with vaccination so you don’t have too.

I’m sure you’d love 80% of the population vaccinated so you feel safe.

You trust strangers to be vaccinated so you can safely go about your business but are a risk to others.

You don’t care what happens to you, so neither do you care about passing an infection to an unborn child or elderly person or cancer patient.

I would say that’s selfish.

Illusionordelusion · 21/07/2020 18:12

The OP is “happy without them” that’s code for “I don’t need vaccinating like the rest of the population, because I am special”.

OP you are selfish.

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Pinkyyy · 21/07/2020 18:12

I'm over this now you're just saying the same stuff. I don't rely on other people and I'm not selfish.

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DebLou47 · 21/07/2020 18:21

This is a tweaked up version of the sars vaccine they were working on... j want my parents to get it who are 71 and 74 then I would and would happily pay

DebLou47 · 21/07/2020 18:22

Sorry MERS

Illusionordelusion · 21/07/2020 18:22

Of course you’re over it, you’re special.

Fingers crossed you didn’t infect someone else with your measles when you were infectious.

lljkk · 21/07/2020 18:22

You never had tetanus jab??!! I can't get past that. Do whatever you like, OP. I used to jump off buildings & don't give a sausage if I get covid. But you haven't even had tetanus. You've drowned me in the risk tolerance League.

Not sure if I would have the vaccination or not
Not sure if I would have the vaccination or not
SengaStrawberry · 21/07/2020 18:25

Thank you @TheId

HeresMe · 21/07/2020 18:25

Whilst I'm not a antivaxxer by any means people assuming vaccines are safe , the first polio vaccine didnt go to well and had to be abandoned due to paralysis. And not a vaccine remember the morning sickness drug thalidomide.

I will be having it, it just needs to be ensure its fully tested and not rushed.

SengaStrawberry · 21/07/2020 18:27

Well to turn it round what’s so different about the CV vaccine that you’d consider that but not the others?

Many of the other illnesses that we have vaccines against are much worse than CV. The only reason they aren’t much worse in the population just now is because of - you’ve guessed it - vaccines!

sunseekin · 21/07/2020 18:28

I’ll be in when they get around to my age group too. I trust the scientists.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 21/07/2020 18:28

Well then don’t.

I’m sure catching COVID is safer than a vaccine.

ThatDamnScientist · 21/07/2020 18:33

A lot of the back work for the vaccines currently in development had already been done and then shelved going back to original SARs.

On the ZOE app today they asked if people would like to be added to a vaccine registry. I said yes (though will likely be declined from trials due to asthma, but if not then I will happily participate).

SunbathingDragon · 21/07/2020 19:08

@HeresMe

Whilst I'm not a antivaxxer by any means people assuming vaccines are safe , the first polio vaccine didnt go to well and had to be abandoned due to paralysis. And not a vaccine remember the morning sickness drug thalidomide.

I will be having it, it just needs to be ensure its fully tested and not rushed.

Vaccines can be rushed whilst still being fully safe and having all the checks that normal vaccines do. Often the testing stages will be carried out one after the other in case one of the stages fails. However, some covid vaccines are currently being tested with all the different stages being checked concurrently; it makes it just as safe, just as tested, but able to be released much much quicker (assuming all stages pass).
Defenbaker · 21/07/2020 19:21

PuzzledObserver posted:

"Irrelevant - influenza and colds are caused by different viruses. Having said that, though, there is some evidence suggesting that having the flu vaccine makes you more susceptible to catching other (non-influenza) respiratory viruses. It's an open question at the moment whether that also applies to Covid-19."

@PuzzledObserver Thanks for the info. I know that flu and colds are caused by different viruses, but I seem pretty resistant to colds and have never had flu, so I didn't want to mess with my immune system (the expression "don't fix it if it ain't broke" springs to mind). I do have a few allergies, so maybe my overactive immune system is an advantage when it comes to fighting off colds.

Interesting point that the new Covid vaccine, like the flu vaccine, could make people more susceptible to other respiratory viruses. I've known lots of people who've had the flu vaccine but thought it didn't work, as they had constant colds/coughs afterwards. So, it seems the flu vaccine has its down side, and I don't think I'll get that one, but as Covid19 seems to have a much higher death rate than the flu (estimated 1-2%, as opposed to 1/1000 for flu), the Covid vaccine seems worth having. This is a useful thread, I'm glad the OP started it, although I don't share her views.