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Still in shock

291 replies

KayEngel · 13/07/2020 18:45

Is it just me? I still can't quite believe what has happened and is still going to happen for the foreseeable. I've stopped going out, not because I'm worried about getting Covid, but because the whole face mask, social distancing, queuing, booking ahead, craziness is just too upsetting.

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peonypower · 13/07/2020 20:29

The reduction in transmission is proven to be huge

People keep saying this, but I haven't seen any studies. Please can you direct me to a proper peer reviewed study?

(And not a patronising picture like the asshole above who can shove their fucking mask where the sun doesn't shine)

I'm trying to keep an open mind on masks. Though frankly I don't see the point. If you're that vulnerable that COVID's gonna get you, you should just hide away. From it and the myriad of other viruses that can kill the vulnerable (but generally not anybody else).

MargotB7 · 13/07/2020 20:32

I've missed something, what's happened?

JassyRadlett · 13/07/2020 20:33

I'm so glad not everyone is being taken in by the virtue signalling mask wearing that won't make an ounce of difference.

You’ll be sure you get yourself published in The Lancet, won’t you? Everyone should have the benefit of your expertise and not have to rely on scientists from places like Edinburgh Uni, Cambridge, McMaster, University of Beirut with their silly systematic reviews of the current evidence.

AgentCooper · 13/07/2020 20:33

I hate it. I cried all over my mum today, just broke down (we’ve made a bubble). I was alright at the start but my mental health had been dreadful since week 6. I’m a non-essential office worker and am desperate to go back. It feels like PND all over again. PND was the reason I chose to stop at one child and now this is like going through it but not having a new child.

LuluJakey1 · 13/07/2020 20:34

I said this to DH at the start and have said it again tonight. I wonder what will be left at the end of all of this. I suspect little of town and city centre shopping, eating and drinking. Fewer hotels. Fewer 'venues' of any kind. Less choice in many things. Some big names will disappear.
House of Fraser
Debenhams
Laura Ashley
Cath Kidston
With any luck Philip Green will be destitute.

There will be fewer of others - John Lewis, M and S.

Others to follow.

Much more working from home so less needed in town centres in terms of refreshments, shops etc.

Fewer airlines and flights - no bad thing.

Fewer cinemas, theatres.

And all this before Boris buggers up Brexit.

I think we are in for a horrible time. Taxes will have to rise significantly one way or another.

Then the possibility of it again in the winter.

SengaStrawberry · 13/07/2020 20:37

It’s fucking shite. But I disagree that elimination is futile. It’s the best chance of managing local outbreaks and life getting back to a semblance of normal x

I hate it, but this too shall pass xx

labyrinthloafer · 13/07/2020 20:37

@peonypower

The reduction in transmission is proven to be huge

People keep saying this, but I haven't seen any studies. Please can you direct me to a proper peer reviewed study?

(And not a patronising picture like the asshole above who can shove their fucking mask where the sun doesn't shine)

I'm trying to keep an open mind on masks. Though frankly I don't see the point. If you're that vulnerable that COVID's gonna get you, you should just hide away. From it and the myriad of other viruses that can kill the vulnerable (but generally not anybody else).

I'm trying to keep an open mind on masks. Though frankly I don't see the point. If you're that vulnerable that COVID's gonna get you, you should just hide away. From it and the myriad of other viruses that can kill the vulnerable (but generally not anybody else).

This is not on Angry and we will never get anywhere with this attitude. I am not vulnerable btw, so what you say is not aimed at me.

TwentyViginti · 13/07/2020 20:39

With any luck Philip Green will be destitute

Ah! a silver lining!

Peterbishopssarcasticsmile · 13/07/2020 20:40

I had a baby not long before lockdown and just feel so sad at the world I've brought him into. There's so much bleakness at the moment

I know we are being told we need to go out again to save the economy but I nothing has the same atmosphere anymore.

It IS a kind of grief isn't it? We walked down our high street at the weekend and so much was open it could almost have been normal and it actually made me feel so much worse - it made me get a real pang for how it was before

I know in a lot of ways we have it easy in this country but I can't quite get my head around the fact that this is how it is now

tempnamechange98765 · 13/07/2020 20:40

I don't quite get why people have a problem with wearing masks? My four year old is willing to wear one in a shop.

Mascotte · 13/07/2020 20:40

I'm with you. The world's gone fucking mad and I can't cope with it all.

BananaPop2020 · 13/07/2020 20:42

The OP has summed up how I feel about this entire shit show. All the fun and spontaneity has gone from life, and there are so many sanctimonious, drama addicted people about.

SengaStrawberry · 13/07/2020 20:42

I agree OP, we all want our lives back. Thing is, we have to get out there, get used to the new ways of living, or we’ll have no lives at all.

This. Yes things are different, but it’s still better trying to get out than staying home. Even go buy a takeaway coffee, go look at the clothes in the supermarket, it’s all ok. Is it like before? No. Do I want it like this forever? No. But it is OK x

Mascotte · 13/07/2020 20:43

It's not ok. It's shite.

annabel85 · 13/07/2020 20:45

I've written the rest of this year off, socially. Can't imagine pubs/restaurants being much fun now.

Yeah, i've been at that stage for a while and resigned myself for staying at home until next year and just going out for exercise and essentials.. My hope is things will be getting back to normal next Spring but it's dependent on an anti viral or a vaccine. I couldn't face another year like this next year.

HelloMissus · 13/07/2020 20:46

I go through waves
Went to dinner at the weekend and it was LOVELY. Felt not normal but close.
Then today I heard about another day to a production (I work in TV) and I just felt so dejected.

nitgel · 13/07/2020 20:47

I went to oxford street on sat. It was fine. People wore masks and it was ok. There was an air of things getting back to normal albeit in a small way.

HelloMissus · 13/07/2020 20:47

I keep thinking - what if this is it. What if this is how we live now.
And I’m not so much sad for me as for my children and my old mum.

Mascotte · 13/07/2020 20:47

And I'm not scared of the virus either but of the mental fuckwittery and misery seeking of people and the trashing of all our fundamental rights and pleasures.

onedayinthefuture · 13/07/2020 20:49

We were sold a lie. We were told it was about flattening the curve. We knew in the beginning it wasn't a serious illness for nearly everyone on the planet. But that isn't good enough. I totally get we all have to do our bit for the greater good and to 'save lives' BUT I am actually very concerned at the power this has given those in authority, the facebook stasi...... they are running the show here and that frightens me.

beatrixpotterspencil · 13/07/2020 20:49

wait a minute
(ive not read entire thread, just first page)
has something new just happened and I havent heard?
or do you mean the 'new' normal stuff?

help me out ladies.

SengaStrawberry · 13/07/2020 20:50

But it can’t be how it was before right now. I want my old life back too but you can either try and obtain some semblance of a life back or wallow in how bad it is. Me and my family aren’t coming out of this unscathed but there isn’t any choice. I can’t kill myself because I have the kids so I can either make it the best I can in the shit circumstances or make it worse.

ravenmum · 13/07/2020 20:51

This study in a German city seemed interesting:
ftp.iza.org/dp13319.pdf It is, however, only a discussion paper.
Summary here for those who cba to read it all: www.uni-mainz.de/presse/aktuell/11532_ENG_HTML.php

MaudesMum · 13/07/2020 20:51

The other way of looking at this is to read up on statistics, to try and put it all in perspective. There are so few cases in the community at the moment, that the team from Oxford trialling the vaccine have had to go to Brazil to do so. And you can look at your area of the country to see what the estimate is of the number of active cases are there - the numbers can be really quite low. I've spent a bit of time doing that, and it is quite reassuring.

beatrixpotterspencil · 13/07/2020 20:53

sorry, I think I understand now.

for me, im just relieved things aren't as bad as they were in early April.
ive had to put a lot of stuff off, including a house move, a job decision, etc.

there were some pluses though: mainly the slowing down of things. but at what cost?
I am really concerned about the aftermath, whatever 'after' means right now.

im worried about politics, even though I don't like party politics - something seems off all round, times have changed, and not just because of covid. im concerned about Brexit, but have also somehow given up.

personally, Im fine within myself.
but my fears for society are something else.