Hairdresser didn’t have a mask/visor

[Summerdays2014]

Hi,

I took my 4 year old to have his hair cut tonight. We went after I’d finished work/he’d finished nursery and there was no queue so straight in, 2 people already in the chairs. I had a mask for my son to wear but he was only holding it over his mouth and it only lasted about 5 minutes as it got hair in it and was uncomfortable for him. My husband asked if all the hairdressers had masks/visors on... but they didn’t. I’m now so worried and feel so guilty. I should have known, I did know, they were meant to have PPE but it just didn’t register at the time. I’m scared I’ve put us at risk and we’ve been so carful - not even seen my parents as I know my son won’t be able to keep away from them.

I am a hairdresser and have followed all the guidelines as i am a professional who looks after my clients and intend to look after myself and my family . The guidelines are clear and all hairdressers know what they are . So those who do not follow these I would doubt their hygiene full stop. Also i do not intend to put the hard work of the NHS or the key workers at risk . Is it really so for a hairdresser hard to wear a visor ???

You should report this

The risk in the rest of the uk is now so low it’s almost negligible, people are going to start dying of all the issues that have been put on the back burner since this started, but no one is talking about that.

But the risk won’t stay very low if people think “it’s all over”. Yes, it’s reasonable that we take more “risks” now as we can’t be locked up forever, but people failing to take reasonable precautions in close interactions will only prolong this whole thing. Infections were very low back in February - lower than they are now - a month later we had lockdown....

I think it’s a bit off to report it (to the Council I assume?) if you used their services but didn’t raise concerns at the time.
As people have said, the risk is pretty low so just keep an eye on temps etc and put this one down to experience. This is new to all of us.

@LilBlackLab

I’ve worked all the way through covid and nothing has ever been ‘enforced’

In the same way there’ll be landlords that haven’t done gas safety checks or fitted carbon monoxide detectors and routinely get away with it... but then the risk of dying in a fire caused by a faulty boiler or dying of Carbon Monoxide poisoning is pretty tiny - far less than dying of Covid - so that’s all ok I suppose

Plenty of people get away with all sorts of stuff... It doesn’t mean it’s ok, and it doesn’t mean they’ll continue to do so. Working as an “underground” hairdresser during lockdown was quite easy to “get away with” as your clients clearly had no interest in reporting you - far less so in a public environment.

It’s so easy to just say ‘ I can’t wear that because of....’ health and safety are more concerned with 2 metre adherence and hand washing. Nobody can enforce that you wash your hands 20 times a day or keep a visor on for 8 hours if it interferes with general health....reasonable adjustments then kick in

Ok, what “reasonable adjustments” have you put in place?

And why you think the HSE would be more interested in washing your hands than having routine close quarters interactions with multiple people throughout the day without any PPE
based both on the guidance and basic common sense is beyond me. It would be a bit like a cook thinking she was being hygienic because she washed her hands thoroughly, but then using chicken that was two weeks past it’s sell-by date (“no idea how they got food poisoning - i made sure I washed my hands thoroughly first!” )

How is is fair that other companies are following the rules and spending lots of money to reopen when others don’t give a damn?

Because if a client isn't happy with it they can take their custom elsewhere. I haven't made a hair appointment yet because I'm used to just walking into the Mr Topper's next to my work and paying £25. It pains me that I'll have to pay at least twice that at the village place and make an actual appointment but whether a mask is required for me or if the hairdresser is wearing one or not isn't coming into it. If they aren't wearing one and it does bother me I'm free to vote with my feet.

@ActualStork223

I'd get over it tbh. Nothing will happen. nasty "reporting" culture developing in the UK.

Yes you're right it is

@GrannyBags

I think it’s a bit off to report it (to the Council I assume?) if you used their services but didn’t raise concerns at the time. As people have said, the risk is pretty low so just keep an eye on temps etc and put this one down to experience. This is new to all of us.

It's very off

Why does everything turn into an argument?

@OverTheRainbow88 It's what the government wants: the little people squabbling over minutiae and threatening each other, instead of scrutinising the government.

It's what the government wants: the little people squabbling over minutiae and threatening each other, instead of scrutinising the government.

The Government surely wants to get this country back on its feet after Covid-19... They want and need people to adhere to the guidance they’ve set out so we can do that is far more focussed on actual risk than the blanket masking wearing in most places. If we can’t as a country be adults and be sensible, then it increases the chances of more blanket measures being put in place.

Remember back in March, the Government advised people what they needed to do... too many people ignored that advice, so the Government took the more draconian measure of a lockdown. Why do people think that wouldn’t happen again? Not learning from mistakes is the definition of stupid.

yes the lockdown was a joke

can't get riled up over a hairdresser and a visor

despite what the gestapo upthread preaches

yes the lockdown was a joke. can't get riled up over a hairdresser and a visor. despite what the gestapo upthread preaches

Lockdown a joke? Wtaf?

@Derbygerbil

yes the lockdown was a joke. can't get riled up over a hairdresser and a visor. despite what the gestapo upthread preaches

Lockdown a joke? Wtaf?

Of course it was. I wish people could see this

@EnlightenedOwl

How exactly? Given your posting history, i don’t imagine you think it was a joke because it wasn’t harsh enough.

The hairdresser should know better but the chances of the hairdresser having it and passing it on to you are extremely low. Try not to worry x

Yes @Derbygerbil it was a joke

It didn’t come soon enough and wasn’t strict enough. Boris wasn’t supportive enough by enforcing it more. I worked through it, essential retail, what a nightmare

512 new reported cases countrywide today

I suppose that’s why I feel that way over hairdressers visors....it’s all getting quite strict now, when really, that was needed in the beginning. Tightening it all up now feels stupid when we didn’t lockdown tight enough to start with

@Mustbetimeforachange

Is that a lot?

@OverTheRainbow88 does it sound like much in a population of 70 million?

Haha no!! But I must admit I stopped looking at rates and that so no idea what is ‘good’!!

@LilBlackLab

Apologies, I misunderstood... I thought you meant lockdown was a joke in that it was an absurd over-reaction, not the opposite.

does it sound like much in a population of 70 million?

No, it’s tiny. After a really bad time a few months ago, we’re now doing pretty well, and I want it to stay that way, from a physical health, mental health and economic perspective... but what I find crazy are those people who are risk dragging us all back by behaving as though it’s “all over”, refusing to take basic precautions, and haven’t learnt the lesson from first time around that it Covid will grow exponentially if allowed to.

You only have to walk round your local town to see most hairdressers arent wearing full ppe. Those wearing visors by me had then angled a bit so as they could talk downwards..total waste of time.