Hairdresser didn’t have a mask/visor

[Summerdays2014]

Hi,

I took my 4 year old to have his hair cut tonight. We went after I’d finished work/he’d finished nursery and there was no queue so straight in, 2 people already in the chairs. I had a mask for my son to wear but he was only holding it over his mouth and it only lasted about 5 minutes as it got hair in it and was uncomfortable for him. My husband asked if all the hairdressers had masks/visors on... but they didn’t. I’m now so worried and feel so guilty. I should have known, I did know, they were meant to have PPE but it just didn’t register at the time. I’m scared I’ve put us at risk and we’ve been so carful - not even seen my parents as I know my son won’t be able to keep away from them.

DH went yesterday to the barbers, he had to wear a mask, barber was wearing a mask, visor and gloves. Chairs are 2m apart for cuts, seating area to wait has been removed.

Only children under a certain age don’t need to wear a mask whilst having a haircut.

Each customer had an allocated booking time and had to wait outside until called in.

If the customers don’t have masks an extra £1 is added to their bill for the barber to provide a mask.

Sounds like your barbers should be shut again OP. How is is fair that other companies are following the rules and spending lots of money to reopen when others don’t give a damn?

Clients don’t have to use masks

No one wore one in a popular hairdressers I went to today

It’s compulsory to wear a mask or visor for the hairdresser but not for the customer

@Mustbetimeforachange I thought the stats were 1:4000 people were infected? Read that today.

@Summerdays2014
My hairdresser has all the advice on their website.

Staff in full PPE.
Chairs cleaned between clients
Salon newly decorated
Air con serviced and filtering checked
Clients with appts only, wearing face coverings.
Fewer chairs
No waiting inside- wait for your stylist to collect you
No drinks - bring your own
No magazines
No cash

Unless I knew this beforehand I'd not be making an appt.

The risk to your child is tiny, and I think there is practically zero infections in children under 5, but I'd still not go there myself as a parent as you are at risk.

Can't wait for this madness go stop. Why don't you just all set up some stakes and burn the witches, which seem to be all people that don't think we're about to drop dead of a disease with the same death rate as flu.

It's not mandatory to wear a face covering BUT it's polite to do so as you hairdresser is at risk all day long from you!. Up to 40% of people with covid are symptom-free, and recently they tested thousands of workers (research) and 80% were symptom free yet infected/ infectious. It can also reduce

@Tootletum- its NOT the same death rate as flu! Where have you been and not reading for the last 4 months? It's around 10x the death rate.

@JinglingHellsBells you are right, my figure is new infections per day, but the same principle holds. Where I live there have been no new infections for the last week

@amijustparanoidorjuststoned Want me to e mail Boris a picture of my chin He will soon change his mind.

@JinglingHellsBells Yeah well anyone can find any stats to support any argument they like. The ones I've read consistently put it at 0.5-1%. That is not 10x flu. Even if it was, given this could be forever, is this really how you want to live your life, reporting people who are barely scraping a living to the HSE stasi?
www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01738-2

There is so little known about this disease. The latest thinking is that it is airborne. In which case the vast majority of masks, and certainly visors, will not stop transmission. I think we’ll find out in years to come that many of the ‘precautions’ we’re taking now are next to useless.

Its more likely those who arent social distancing in pubs who then go for a hair appointment will spread it

My hairdresser (i dont know whether to say ex hairdresser now) is a small independent. Nowhere near 50 clients a day.

I have had a suspicion for a long while that the hair and beauty industry is being sacrificed for the sake of pubs.

On average less than 300 people are getting Covid per day out of 66 MILLION in uk - given we are mainlybtesting keyworkers most prob aren’t even showing symptoms

It has fatality rate of about 1% tops - of those infected - not of population

That was before new treatments!

Why do healthy people think they’d all be that 1%!

It’s irrational

I think half the people I know since Covid have genuinely developed anxiety and mental health issues

It’s not normal to not be able to see facts and figures for what they are

The level of hysteria for the majority is ridiculous and unhealthy.

85% of people in their 80s survive Covid!! Get a bloody grip people!

Your son is going to nursery. What's the difference?

@daisymay133 it’s ‘compulsory’ is it?? No it’s not it’s guidance. Best practice.

And there are exemptions for some people

Well said Daisymay. I’m sick of people who I thought were intelligent losing their minds over this.
Yes there is still a societal responsibility to be careful (alert ) but on an individual level there’s no need for this sanctimonious panic

Lil- for hairdressers only - wearing a visor is compulsory a mask isn’t

Brave The Shave may look enticing to a lot more people this year.

Miserablemoan

Totally agree

I’ve lost respect for people I thought were educated, rational etc! It’s literally crazy talk for someone with no underlying issues

Yes some have died in such circumstances but it’s prob less than those who’ve been hit by a fallen tree and we don’t even consider that a risk!

I read a comment under a news item on Facebook today where a woman was appalled at hairdressers being allowed to reopen because “what if someone has COVID on their hair?” And then “when they get a blow dry it will be spread all through the air in the salon” this comment had 17 likes.

The world has been split in two.

Some people will never recover their normal senses from this episode in time.

It would be funny if it wasn’t so horribly serious.

The ones I've read consistently put it at 0.5-1%. That is not 10x flu.

Then you’ve not read anything about the infection fatality rate of flu.

Like Covid, many people with flu are asymptomatic... around 3/4s based in this NHS study.

2017-18 was a particularly bad flu season, with a high death rate, partly due to vaccine being ineffective. For that season, the CDC estimated for the US that 48.8 million illnesses, more than 22.7 million medical visits, 959,000 hospitalizations, and 79,400 deaths... or a case fatality rate of 0.16%... which turns into a infection fatality rate (if 3/4s are asymptomatic) of 0.04%. Flu is bad... Covid is a lot worse, despite most people getting over it fine.

You’ve been at work and your DS has been at nursery. Your both interacting with different people so really, what difference does this make?

Like a pp poster has said, it’s performance.

The NHS study...

www.nhs.uk/news/medical-practice/three-quarters-of-people-with-flu-have-no-symptoms/

Thats not the reason im not going
Someone i know has been and said it was a horrible experience. She skipped her colour and just went for the cut.

She couldnt bear to be in a hot salon any longer than she had to She wore a mask And had to hold a visor over her face while they washed her hair.

I will wear a mask where i need to but will avoid something that isnt essential while this is required. I had recurrent facial impetigo 5 times in 9 years and have been free of it for nearly six years. The hibiscrub and the mask is for if i have to wear one like in a medical setting, but for hair................nope.

Again

Customers do not have to wear a mask unless the salon asks

None in y area ask and speaking to staf today most don’t care as majority are young