Is anyone else feeling very paranoid?

[Thewheelsonthebus23]

That there’s something more going on?
I’m not normally into conspiracy theories and I’m not about to start now. But I’m feeling on edge like never before.
From what I can see, this virus has a high survival rate, around 99% and the mortality rate is likely much lower than estimates suggest due to the fact that many cases are asymptomatic or mild and haven’t even been picked up on in testing.
The majority of deaths are in the over 65s.
I’m just feeling extremely paranoid at the moment. I’m worried I’m going crazy! As no one else seems to be questioning things. Anyone else?

The reason you're feeling paranoid is that you can see for yourself that the notion that we all have to be terrified of this one illness, while ignoring everything else - the need for jobs, education and treatment for other illnesses being only some of those things - is patently and obviously bonkers. So all the messages that are out there about how we all have to stay alert and stay safe and all that bunkum just comes across as batty nonsense.

There's no conspiracy theory. Certain scientists have been waiting for a major, devastating pandemic for years and years. They thought this was it. It wasn't. It was just another virus, going around, infecting a lot of people and killing a small proportion, like many other viruses that we just ignore day in and day out.

Politicians around the world are realising that they panicked and set everything on fire when there was no need to. But they'll never admit it, so they have to somehow maintain the illusion the virus is 'deadly' while at the same time getting everyone back out into the world. It's crazy making because it involves such utter nonsense as opening pubs while keeping playgrounds closed.

Eventually the articles about the 'overreaction to covid' will start and we'll have endless analyses for months and months about how we panicked, how lockdowns did more damage than good etc etc. It'll be too late at that point of course. It's so dull and predictable as to be almost boring if it weren't so utterly shit.

What Carbuncle said.

Tbh I think the one thing the govt definitely got right was scaring the shot out of everyone so they’d go (fairly) willingly into lockdown. Now the problem is to reassure everyone that they aren’t going to die because they popped to the corner shop/got a bus/took the kids back to school.

Oh, TheDailyCarbuncle, what you say over and over is so dull and predictable as to be almost boring if it weren't so utterly shit.

And OP, I don't trust anyone who says, 'I’m not normally into conspiracy theories and I’m not about to start now. But ...'

It sounds like those people who say, 'I'm not a racist, but ...'

Shot? Shit, even - you’d think my phone would have learned to swear by now...

I have wondered this throughout but as this perspective seemed to be the minority I kept my mouth shut and assumed I was the crazy one

I'm a bit worried from the reason stories about swine flu and possible return of the death plague in China.

Coronavirus has been unbelievably cruel and hasn't discriminated. I'm worried for the people who have potentially missed out on crucial diagnoses in this time, escalation in mental health issues due to lack of resources etc

Sometimes it does all feel a bit of the cal. Before the storm.

@WhatHoJeeves So what's your stance on the current sitation with coronavirus? You didn't say in your pp.

Ohnoherewego62 The swine flu is a bit of a worry I grant you but we have treatment for it (Tamiflu) and I think a vaccine? I had swine flu in 2009 and while it wasn’t great I’ve had worse ‘normal’ flus. The worst thing was the 2 weeks of self isolation!

As for the plague, there are a few hundred cases every year, in remote areas of Mongolia (it’s actually illegal there to hunt marmots as they carry it), the SW US and a few other places. It’s treatable with antibiotics. Tbh I don’t see it as a major threat - it’s been around for centuries, many people have some degree of resistance from ancestors who survived it in the past and as I say, it can be treated.

What @TheDailyCarbuncle said

No not parnoid at all, it is what it is.

I'm panicking as people are obvs at the stage where they've had enough and to hell with social distancing. But the virus is still out there and there are still alot dying every day.

@BooseysMom

I'm panicking as people are obvs at the stage where they've had enough and to hell with social distancing. But the virus is still out there and there are still alot dying every day.

Americans had had enough a few weeks back and now look where they are.

You lot do know that every flu is different don't you. Treatment / vaccine for one doesn't necessarily mean anything for the next one!
You are feeling paranoid because we are basically all doomed.
Or not.. live your life, dont take anything for granted, try not to worry about things you can do bugger all about!

From the ONS

The number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 26 June 2020 (Week 26) was 8,979, this was 360 deaths lower than Week 25.

In Week 26, the number of deaths registered was 3.4% below the five-year average (314 deaths fewer), this is the second consecutive week that deaths have been below the five-year average; the numbers of deaths in care homes and hospitals were also fewer than the five-year average (103 and 815 deaths lower respectively), while the number of deaths in private homes was 745 higher than the five-year average.

Of the deaths registered in Week 26, 606 mentioned "novel coronavirus (COVID-19)", the lowest number of deaths involving COVID-19 in the last 13 weeks, accounting for 6.7% of all deaths in England and Wales.

but remember folks, only Covid deaths matter

So of the 8,979 people who died in week 26 the only ones we don’t care about 8,373 of them.

After all this I really don’t have it in me to start worrying about the Black Death 🍷

@AlecTrevelyan006

From the ONS

The number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 26 June 2020 (Week 26) was 8,979, this was 360 deaths lower than Week 25.

In Week 26, the number of deaths registered was 3.4% below the five-year average (314 deaths fewer), this is the second consecutive week that deaths have been below the five-year average; the numbers of deaths in care homes and hospitals were also fewer than the five-year average (103 and 815 deaths lower respectively), while the number of deaths in private homes was 745 higher than the five-year average.

Of the deaths registered in Week 26, 606 mentioned "novel coronavirus (COVID-19)", the lowest number of deaths involving COVID-19 in the last 13 weeks, accounting for 6.7% of all deaths in England and Wales.

but remember folks, only Covid deaths matter

This!

Its awful when anyone dies of course it is but it's now all we focus on, how many covid deaths today? The media has made us paranoid that the covid grim reaper hides behind every corner each time we leave the house.
I wonder If they published the breakdown of total daily deaths from all causes would people still react the same.

Yes, but that's because we've been on the receiving end of all this top down tripe for ... centuries... it's nothing new under the sun.

AlecTrevelyan but surely the reason there are lower than 5 yr average deaths currently is because our death rate has been really excessive for a few months? From a purely statistical point of view, on top of the many many people who've been cut down in their prime, there are a significant number of people who've had their life shortened by Covid by a few months. So a number of the people who would, in normal times, statistically have died of old age or terminal illness in July/Aug/September this year have already been carried off early during the virus peak and are part of the April/May horror show statistics.

I agree OP.

I’m in Scotland and I think it’s got weirdly worse the last week or so as the real Covid-mongers have all got their masks on - outdoors and IN THE CAR - and all you can see is their beady eyes shooting you dirty looks for being a denier and not wearing your mask 23 out of 24 hours of the day! Removing only to eat and vape of course...

Meanwhile in a population of 5.5 million there were 2 - count em! - new cases overnight. Two!

Meanwhile GPs are still MIA, dentists are only open for emergencies, and shop assistants are barking at you to stand 2m away from everyone and everything while simultaneously hoping you’ll spend what savings you have left in their little shop to keep them in business.

But also, Celebs are back to being papped on the beach but apparently that’s all cool as long as the Daily Mail has new content for the sidebar. (While the main page tells us the new problem is that covid turns your insides to mush so even if you recover you are still definitely going to die at some point)

Hypocritical, contrary nonsense being spouted from every mouthpiece in play.

Absolutely fucking ridiculous now and I pray every day that finally someone is going to call this whole farce out and finally we can move on!

I think the right thing was done at the (almost) right time. Those intensive care wards bursting in my local hospital (Gwent) were real. Not an over reaction. Wales is dragging its feet when it comes to reopening but its time to get on with it now.
I think we just have to live with this now

We met someone we know in the park the other day. We had a socially distant chat. He works in education and was saying how difficult it was to have the kids back at school. He then said "I don't know anyone who has had COVID" in a way that suggested he didn't quite believe in it. I didn't say that my mother had died from COVID nor did we tell him that hospital believe my DP had it (no test at the time but subsequent tests looking for damage indicated that he had it).

I have pondered my reluctance to share this information with him. But I think I am picking up on hostility or something.

I have wondered if there is more to this than natural causes.

That it seems to target a specific group of people ethnically than others, may suggest it could have been man made. I am not saying it is but that sort of research goes on all the time, and I read an article with a very well respected scientist saying that he was horrified at the lack of security and safety in the Wuhan labs.

He also said that he believed that its epdemiology would suggest it was man made as it doesnt react as normal viruses do to environmental conditions. It acts in the same way in a very cold climate as it does in the worlds hottest country, something that is rarely found in natural viruses.

Made worrying sense to me.

Cummings smelled it and BoJo dealt it.