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Face masks for shopping

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Lemons1571 · 27/06/2020 22:18

It’s just popped up on my social media on the official bona fide UK government page.

“Going shopping this weekend?
Shop responsibly
Wear a face mask“

This is the drip feed start of a move towards compulsory face masks in shops isn’t it. Particularly in the autumn/winter when they expect transmission to rise.

I’m keen. I imagine lots will struggle with this though.

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vanillandhoney · 29/06/2020 08:22

@Costacoffeeplease

I live in Portugal. Masks have been compulsory for a while now, in shops, restaurants and enclosed public spaces. I had an ecg and heart ultrasound recently wearing mine. I’m amazed that they’re not mandatory in the U.K., and at the general resistance to wearing them, disabilities permitting
Probably because our entire lockdown has been a total sham - the government themselves ignored most of it and just carried on seeing family and travelling all over the place.

Nobody takes Boris and co. seriously and why should they?

ifonly4 · 29/06/2020 08:29

I wish everyone in a shop had to wear a mask. I work in one and wear a mask while I'm in high contact areas, ie shop floor/self serve. 60% of customers are really trying to get it right, some don't give a toss for staff, other customers. Yes, they're hot, but if we go back to old ways numbers will spiral again.

jobhunter7 · 29/06/2020 12:01

@Lemons1571

It’s just popped up on my social media on the official bona fide UK government page.

“Going shopping this weekend?
Shop responsibly
Wear a face mask“

This is the drip feed start of a move towards compulsory face masks in shops isn’t it. Particularly in the autumn/winter when they expect transmission to rise.

I’m keen. I imagine lots will struggle with this though.

It does seem the easiest measure to reduce transmission rates.
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BananaPop2020 · 29/06/2020 15:31

@vanillandhoney you are horribly accurate with your comment, it’s been a bloody shambles.

HeIenaDove · 29/06/2020 15:51

@ifonly4 Do you work in a cool supermarket

Because you would be humming a different tune if you were in Braintree Boots last Friday just gone.

Ormally · 29/06/2020 17:42

I'm more concerned by the role of air conditioning and recirculation in the spread of some of the tracked infection studies from China and Korea, so intend to try to avoid too many places with that, as well as having a mask on hand.

lljkk · 29/06/2020 18:42

isn't Portugal one of the hotspots? Is that in spite of the face covers or the reason that face covers are obligatory.

duvetaddict · 29/06/2020 18:59

I'm happy to wear one but think they are causing more problems than protection the way people are using them. The same one shouldn't be worn all day and you shouldn't touch it once on until removing. I've seen so many people wearing them under their chin then pulling them up when needed, that's making it pointless! The people wearing masks also seem to be the people that seem to have no concept of staying 2 metres apart as they think a mask worn incorrectly makes the rules no longer apply.

mum2jakie · 29/06/2020 19:48

@HelenaDove I've had recurrent bouts of facial impetigo and won't be wearing a mask to go shopping. That'll be less of my money going back into the economy, if mask wearing is made compulsory.

HeIenaDove · 29/06/2020 20:01

@mum2jakie I think others who have had this are the ones who truly get it (as in get where im coming from) Its awful isnt it? Thanks

Took me YEARS to get out of the cycle and the past five years and eight months is the longest ive gone without a flare up.

WhiteChocTwix · 29/06/2020 20:08

I went to Next this morning to collect an order. There were a group of women in front of me; no social distancing super close together, obnoxiously loud chit chat, brought up half the shop and no masks. Stood chatting next to the till after all being served! There's me with my mask and hand gel quietly waiting while the poor assistant in a face shield had to take the tags out of about 100 different articles of clothing Hmm (I kidd you not). Not sure what the point of me mentioning this is except they seemed so arrogant. I saw my little nephew in the garden yesterday and I asked him if he knew about social distancing. He said "Yes, 2 metres! And if I have to go to a shop with Mummy I have a face covering". That kid warms my heart ❤️

SamSeabornforPresident · 29/06/2020 20:51

Not being goady but how the hell do you wear a mask in a bar or restaurant??

WhiteChocTwix · 29/06/2020 20:53

@SamSeabornforPresident wear it when you enter or if you need the loo and then remove it to eat or drink once you're seated.

SamSeabornforPresident · 29/06/2020 20:54

👍

lljkk · 29/06/2020 21:28

I know why it happens, but it looks kind of gross with nose hanging out & mouth covered up. I don't know why. Just highlights big noses, maybe!

HeIenaDove · 01/07/2020 18:12

www.pulsetoday.co.uk/clinical/clinical-specialties/prescribing/gps-should-not-prescribe-antibiotics-for-impetigo-says-nice/20039181.article

GPs should not prescribe antibiotics for impetigo, says NICE
14 August 2019 By Beth Gault

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Antibiotics should not be prescribed to patients with non-bullous impetigo, according to new draft guidance.

The joint guidelines, from NICE and Public Health England (PHE), say that GPs should recommend topical antiseptic instead of antibiotics, with the aim of reducing antimicrobial resistance.

It found that antiseptics, such as hydrogen peroxide 1% cream, were just as effective as topical antibiotics and therefore should be prescribed instead.

However, the guidelines state that GPs can still prescribe an oral antibiotic if the non-bullous impetigo is widespread, or the patient is systematically unwell or at risk of complications.

Non-bullous impetigo is the more common form of skin infection, usually starting with a rash of small, pus-filled blisters, compared to bullous impetigo, which presents with sores and intact blisters, according to the British Skin Foundation.

It is highly infectious and although usually clears up within two to three weeks without treatment, it is usually treated with an antibiotic to prevent the spread of infection and speed up recovery, according to NICE.

A spokesperson from NICE said: ‘NICE now say that topical antiseptics should be offered to people with localised, non-bullous impetigo if they aren’t systemically unwell or at risk of developing any complications.

If antiseptic treatment is not suitable, or a person has widespread non-bullous impetigo, a topical antibiotic should be given instead (fusidic acid 2%). An oral antibiotic (flucloxacillin) is also an option for people with widespread non-bullous impetigo and should be given first line if the person has bullous impetigo or if they are systemically unwell or at risk of developing any complications.’

The guidance also included that GPs should not combine a topical and oral antibiotic to treat impetigo, as using both is ‘no more effective’ than using one.

It follows a pledge by the Government to cut antibiotics prescribing by a further 15%.

David Banner | GP Partner/Principal14 Aug 2019 5:21pm

I’m sure that those impetigo patients subsequently admitted with “sepsis” will be perfectly satisfied that their GP failed to prescribe an antibiotic.

Nick Mann | Salaried GP15 Aug 2019 1:02pm

Facial impetigo is likely to represent URT carriage of pathogenic Staph/Strep.
Topical treatment of any kind does nothing to address this.
The patient remains a risk to themselves and to any contacts.
Cases of neumonia, sepsis and scarlet fever have increased. Who is researching the impact/harms of not treating?
Too many agenda guidelines based on too little medical evidence.

Carpe vinum! | GP Partner/Principal15 Aug 2019 1:59pm

and then what about school absence? The HPA advice is exclusion from school until 48 hours after antibiotics commenced, or until lesions have crusted and healed. So parents to keep kids off school for 2-3 weeks under the above guidance - I'm sure that's going to go down well on the school attendance record!

Aragog · 01/07/2020 18:59

I don't really understand why so many people in the U.K. are so anti masks.
They are being worn all over the world. They are compulsory in public in many countries right now and with far less exemptions, even for young children. For example, some places in America say from age 2y.

So why are so many people in the U.K. seemingly unable to wear a mask compared to people in other countries?

Mintjulia · 02/07/2020 12:09

Perhaps it's natural British reticence to looking stupid or tolerating anything uncomfortable.

My BIL (70) would poke sticks in his eyes rather than wear a mask outside a clinical setting.

Or a feeling of immortality maybe?

It's definitely cultural.

crosseyedMary · 02/07/2020 12:42

Lockdown has taught a lot of people they can live without a lot of things
this is why the government wants us to get out shopping and working asap...before too many people realise they are doing jobs they don't enjoy so that they can buy crap they don't need

LoadsaBlusher · 02/07/2020 14:30

Compulsory in Scottish shops from Monday

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