people, please, stay home if you can

[Lua]

Most places that have eased lockdown measures, are seeing an increase in the number of cases. So there is no way around it (at least in the short-term), live a "normal life" and increase the risk for everyone (there are no "personal risk" in a pandemic).

I see a lot of people in mumsnet saying that we suffer too much to save the lives of 80 year olds. While I find this cold assessment horrible on its own, there are so many case of under 60s suffering badly. This is a harrowing picture of 63 year old woman:

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/25/from-cold-to-coma-to-homecoming-one-womans-100-days-of-coronavirus

Sure, the risk is low. Sure, we deal with risks all the time. But we also try to mitigate risks all the time. We use seat belts, and we look before we cross the road, we use helmets, etc There are many reasons why someone needs to go into work, and those are understandable. But do people "need" to go to raves, beaches, cinemas? do we really need to go into shops and buy a new summer outfit?

Life needs to be different, and we need to find new ways to make our economy tick. Lots of opportunities in new fields. Lets support each other and look for new ways to make the world go around.

[FizzFan]

Exactly, I don’t want anyone to die of it either, but it’s an illness, they sometimes kill people. Not a good enough reason to keep 66m people locked up and the economy in free fall.

[TheVanguardSix]

Who do you think you are OP?

[BarkandCheese]

As someone who was due to start a new job in May, which now doesn’t exist thanks to the lockdown, can you please tell me what these “new opportunities in fresh fields” are please? TIA

[Roussette]

Everyone saying they are going back to normal, fine, good on you, just don't come near me!
My DH has health issues and we're not young.

I am doing my best to support local businesses in all sorts of ways, but I will not be itching to get to the shops (I'll order, but it will be online) or the beach or the pub (we're ordering beer and food and doing takeaway and will carry on with that)

Before and after. Bournemouth.
Volunteers went out to pick that lot up after the selfish bastards couldn't be arsed to take their rubbish with them. The selfishness of some of the british public is awful. (Please note, I said some)

[Nanny0gg]

@FizzFan

There are many reasons why someone needs to go into work, and those are understandable.

The main reason anyone goes into work is to earn money to provide for their families, and also as a consequence pay tax which keeps the economy going. Even those who work in places you deem “non essential”.

Virus isn’t going anywhere, time to start living with the risk. Which to the majority of the population is small.

^^This. With bells on.

And children need to be back in school. One of my DGC isn't and she's really suffering.

The world has to get back some kind of normality or even more people's lives will be ruined.

[vanillandhoney]

No thanks. Three months with no income was quite enough.

[NiceViper]

"You stay home, I'll do what I want (in line with the guidlines)"

Looks like everyone has forgotten thus bit of the guidelines

You should continue to stay alert and limit your contact with others. Staying at home is the easiest way to do this

Sure people are permitted to go out.

But staying at home unless it is necessary remains at the centre of it. Necessary includes for wider well being as well as for money-spinning activities. But it's clearly not out for everything all the time - stay at home remain the key message.

And so many people are wilfully overlooking that bit, and being really quite rude and very abrasive about it

[WhatTheWay]

“Lots of opportunities in new fields“

Lol

[reinacorriendo]

If half the country haven’t listened to Johnson they aren’t going to listen to OP on MN no offence, I have followed every single bloody rule as we live with someone who is shielding, my elderly relative, I have been told my job can’t done from home so I’m no longer getting paid, it’s shit, what can I do, my children have missed their education, they are sick of online learning it’s not the same and kiss their friends. Everyone getting all excited at new measures, they mean nothing to us as we can’t do anything until shielding ends, my eldest hasn’t seen her dad since the week before lockdown, the orthodontist called to offer her an appointment but when asked about shielding I answered yes so they wouldn’t let us come, we are being treated like we are shielding too. We go for walks and bikes rides, we walked to our local NT place and had a lovely cold coffee and ice creams and it was so nice, we make sure we get out for walks, can’t be stuck in forever

[HairyFloppins]

All those that keep saying stay in, 2nd waves coming, total lockdown in winter.

Are you all financially secure?. How can you afford to be able to stay in all the time. I bet you still want the shelves stacked though like my daughter has been doing through out this.

[Kokeshi123]

What is this obsession with beaches somehow being a source of infections?

The aftermath of the protests suggest that outdoor transmission is very rare as long as people wear masks.

Why not get people wearing masks instead of throwing the economy off a cliff?

[Mawbags]

I don’t give a shit what the rest of you do, I’m absolutely limiting interaction

Each to his own

[AriettyHomily]

@StrawberryPea

I'm really tired of people telling everyone on MN to 'please do this' and 'please do that', as though they are some kind of wise elder preaching to the lesser idiots 🙄

I've got my own brain thanks and I'm perfectly capable of keeping abreast of information available on which I can make my own decisions.

And no, I won't be staying at home.

Totally this.

[MangoFeverDream]

No

[Bluntness100]

I don’t give a shit what the rest of you do, I’m absolutely limiting interaction

Op this is the attitude to take, it’s about individual risk management. If you’re under 65 with no health conditions the risk to you is beyond tiny. If you no someone with a higher risk then they should take their own precautions and personal responsibility like this poster, and it would be good to limit interactions with them.

You need to take personal responsibility based on your own risk factor. And let others do the same.

[Roussette]

What is this obsession with beaches somehow being a source of infections?

Because people won't wear masks on a very hot day on Bournemouth beach.
Because people were far closer than 2 metres apart. I know it's gone down to 1 metre but it suddenly doesn't get safer overnight because BoJo changes from 2-1m

[EmperorCovidula]

I still don’t understand what people think will happen if they stay home. Do you seriously think it will just go away? It’s surely best to keep infection rates as high as it is safe to do so in the hopes of burning through it ASAP.

[Jaxhog]

You stay home, I'll do what I want

I hear this from so many people now. Sod the vulnerable, they say. Survival of the fittest, they say. These are the same people who were 'virtue signaling' for the NHS. But ask them actually do something useful for others - sod that.

Is this really British society today?

[Roussette]

I don’t give a shit what the rest of you do, I’m absolutely limiting interaction

Ditto me too.

[EmperorCovidula]

@Kokeshi123 different story in Melbourne. Their numbers have gone up after BLM March as allowed to go ahead.

[FizzFan]

For a start, I wasn’t clapping for the NHS. I’ve done my bit and so have my kids. People can’t be expected to stay locked up forever to protect the vulnerable. That wasn’t even the aim of lockdown in the first place.

[Drivingdownthe101]

@HairyFloppins

All those that keep saying stay in, 2nd waves coming, total lockdown in winter.

Are you all financially secure?. How can you afford to be able to stay in all the time. I bet you still want the shelves stacked though like my daughter has been doing through out this.

I think they must all have a couple of times their annual salary in savings. Surely? Otherwise how could anyone afford to just stay at home indefinitely?

[Daisyxxchainxx]

@shieldedsally

It's important for certain people to shield. Clearly you are one of those people. I fully respect the fear you have too. It's bluddy scary when you are at risk..

But from people with kids points of view. It's been a very long time. Our kids were dragged out of school. All the things they did were cancelled. They were no longer allowed to see people. My five year old loved school. Now she never wants to go back again! She also has had to hear no to the most ridiculous things. She's been amazing. But it's not something I want her to carry around with her for much longer. I want her to be a carefree child again. It's not doing anybody's mental health any good. I understand many people who have been working and shopping as normal will perhaps be feeling slightly better than somebody who's been home for months. I coped fine for the first 8 weeks and since then it's just been getting harder. I'm not a weak person, I'm just worried about our immune systems and energy levels as well as our mental health. We we are not designed to stay at home and be alone for huge periods of time. We all feel sad for the elderly in nursing homes who can no longer go out and be be a normal person anymore due to health issues. So why is it any different 4 people of our ages to desperately need some normality again.

Everybody I speak to now sounds defeated. Everybody is lonely, drained, tired and worried. I can't sleep properly and llagain most people that I talk to are the same. it's been a massive stress and somebody on here said to me the other day that I sounded stressed and I realised she's right. I've had a knot in my stomach for weeks and I constantly feel anxious. So you can say we're just weak people who who can't cope with a little bit of isolation but everybody is living a completely different life to you,so you should respect that some really do need to get back out. not to mention people have to work to pay the bills and to survive.

[Sleepyblueocean]

The beach photos are designed to make everyone look closer than they are.

[RickOShay]

@NiceViper
I agree with you. The advice is still to stay at home where possible.
People are scared and that comes out as anger sometimes.
I hope we all get through it without losing loved ones.