Fab news for single parents and those living alone !!

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52988840

This from the bbc seems clearer:

You can only have one bubble per household - and you can't switch them around. It does not apply to anybody who is shielding.
For example:
A grandparent who lives alone would be able to form a support bubble with one of their children, which means they could go to see them, interact with their grandchildren etc as normal
A single parent could form a support bubble with a parent or friend so they can interact as normal
Two single people who each live alone could form a support bubble
A couple that do not live together could form a bubble - but only if they both live alone or one of them lives alone and whoever lives with the other one doesn't form a bubble with anyone else

So an adult child living with parents could form a bubble with a partner as long as they live alone and the parents don't for a bubble with anyone else.

It's a little complicated when you start talking about every possible scenario (and no doubt there will be many come out with reasons they are special cases and need more than one other household) but actually it makes sense as a first step.

@QforCucumber they can both choose you... but maybe not at the same time.

We have to include my MIL as my Mum's partner is extremely vulnerable.

@manicinsomniac you CAN link up with your sisters house hold ! Only 1 side of the bubble needs to be either a single person or single parent

This announcement has literally given me the light at the end of the Tunnel that I’ve been desperately hoping for. As a single Mum very close to breaking point, this will make such a HUGE difference

but I don't know anyone, post Cummings, who wasn't already seeing a partner they didn't live with or parents who live alone.

Really? Opposite experience here. Not seen parent in mid 90s since before lockdown.

That kind of statement annoys me to hell as I and so many others are doing the right thing for the benefit of others.

I read two households can mix. But one household must be single person living on their own.

Who cares what BJ says. You assess the risks

I actually cried when he said this. I hadn’t realised how much I needed this ! The idea that someone else might make a meal ! Just to talk in person properly with other adults !! A garden is fine but if you can’t use the loo it’s not for long!

I haven't done it JinglingHellsBells, my parents have each other, but in the new "common sense" world I know lots of people who, as advised, assessed their own risk and decided that actually it was better not to leave their parent isolated.

Awesome. Thanks concerned

The BBC article makes it less clear to me as there is only 1 adult from each side in every scenario listed?

I read two households can mix. But one household must be single person living on their own.

That's the impression I got when I listened to the last part of the daily briefing earlier.

However, on the 7pm new on radio 4 the newsreader said that both household have to have only one adult in family; can't remember exactly how it was worded.

From UK PM twitter account

I was excited and called my Mum and said I can come inside your house now instead of sitting in the garage and talking through the door and her reaction wasnt great saying well it's up to me if I want to come in, not exactly enthusiastic...fuk sake the fear conditioning has worked wonders.

I have already decided I'm going to go to two different households. My mum who hasn't seen my son or hugged him in 3 months, my friend who suffers from major depression, and is on her own with 5 kids and has no other friends nearby to 'bubble' with. Ready to be flamed but I've assessed this in my head. It allows my son to see his grandma and interact with other children, and my friend is able to get the support she needs...

This is the most muddled daftest set of instructions yet IMHO. And that's saying something. I thought I understòd it but maybe not after all.

@JinglingHellsBells if your parent lives alone, then yes, you (and your DH) can see her.

You couldn't then, for example, go and see DH's parents. Nor could he see his parents AND you see yours. But you CAN join your household of two with her single-person household.

Both my dad (single adult household) and my FIL (also lives alone) wants to bubble with me, DH and our children.

How the hell are we supposed to choose just one? What a really, really shitty situation.

What seemed like a wonderful concept at first now seems to be a total mess

@QforCucumber

My DM lives alone, MIL lives alone. They both have already been on the phone over the moon about this. How the hell do we choose which one to support?!

both

honestly in your shoes, both.

@QforCucumber

My DM lives alone, MIL lives alone. They both have already been on the phone over the moon about this. How the hell do we choose which one to support?!

both

honestly in your shoes, both.

This is wonderful news for us - it means my DC can visit their beloved grandma. I've never seen them quite so happy as just know when I told them they could have a sleepover at Marmar's on Saturday.

@QueenofmyPrinces do you live a long way away from them. Can you still met up socially distanced? How old are they?

It is very good news generally for people living on their own which is the intention.
Fierce chat on whatsapp about which son (single) grandma is going to choose to bubble up with. Tbh they have no way of enforcing this and they know it.

Could this be any more fucking complicated? This bubble, that bubble, can I do this, can I do that?

How about a single clear set of rules? Its either safe to meet people, or it isn't.

I assume they are prioritising the mental health risk for a single adult with no other adult company over the virus health risk. It certainly wouldn't be risk free, and that is what people need to think about before setting up their support bubble.