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What would you actually like the government to do on schools.

585 replies

StatisticalSense · 09/06/2020 20:53

The demands on this site with regards to schooling are simply incompatible. Schools physically do not have the room or staff to reopen to their normal numbers of pupils with any form of social distancing in place, so it clearly isn't possible to get all kids back to school full time with social distancing in place.
What exactly would you like the government to be doing on schools that is actually feasible?

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canigooutyet · 09/06/2020 22:37

Why should those doing exams go part time and year 7/8 start fulltime before them? @Nappyvalley15

I'm sure they are stressed enough as it is without then getting a substandard education? Even if it would be an improvement on what they currently have.

LockdownLou · 09/06/2020 22:37

To provide staff with PPE if required, to drop the SD and to get on with it. Basically.

Barbie222 · 09/06/2020 22:37

We won't be dropping social distancing in workplaces for a while. Even this government isn't that thick. There's a little thing called legal liability.

canigooutyet · 09/06/2020 22:38

Have we caught up with the ppe shortage yet?
I don't mean the Blue Peter here you can make at home variety?

Gillian1980 · 09/06/2020 22:38

Full time primary with each class as a bubble.

shelikesemwithamoustache · 09/06/2020 22:39

All kids back now, scrap social distancing for children. Transmission rates lower now than they were when they closed in March and there were not 1000s of teachers and pupils dying in April. PPE for staff if they want it. I work at a school and would be more than happy with this. Most teens are meeting in huge groups anyway judging from my walls around town. Ridiculous that I can take the kids to party around IKEA but not to school.

StatisticalSense · 09/06/2020 22:39

@flamingochill
School budgets might be tight but any school that cannot afford bog roll is either refusing to work to the correct ratios or has seriously messed their priorities up somewhere.

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flamingochill · 09/06/2020 22:39

Some subjects are practical and can't be done at home alone. For example drama performances or science experiments.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 09/06/2020 22:40

twinnywinny14

@GreenTulips where is the evidence that children can’t spread? The government clearly aren’t 100% on this otherwise they would be sending them all back now surely?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-52003804

“A review of the evidence by a global team of researchers concluded : "The role of children in transmission is unclear, but consistent evidence is demonstrating a lower likelihood of acquiring infection, and lower rates of children bringing infections into households."

WowLucky · 09/06/2020 22:40

Close now, except for keyworkers/vulnerable.

Stop messing about pretending that it's possible to open PT for some children and offer anything meaningful. Full, normal opening from Sept1 unless the figures go horribly wrong after all the reopenings of other services in the interim

Spottyhands · 09/06/2020 22:41

Open all schools now and scrap social distancing.

The measures are completely disproportionate for a virus with such a low mortality rate in people of working age.

shelikesemwithamoustache · 09/06/2020 22:42

That said, I probably wouldn’t have closed any schools in the first place.

clopper · 09/06/2020 22:42

Scrap social distancing rules. Keep classes in bubbles with no assemblies and staggered plays. Maybe eat lunches in classes. Continue with hand washing and hygiene discipline. Staff to wear visors if worried about it.

Nappyvalley15 · 09/06/2020 22:42

Years 7 & 8 can not always stay at home while parents go to work depending on their maturity. The older years can. The older children can work more independently if they are set up with the work they need on a fortnightly basis.

Look my preference would be to get all children back full time. But I acknowledge that older children may be more likely to spread the virus than younger ones so there may be some demand for them to socially distance.

twinnywinny14 · 09/06/2020 22:44

@pfrench well said. I’m outraged at some the comments on here and can not determine whether they are from cold, callous, uncaring, rude and atrocious people or just so stupid and ignorant that they think the way they do. No wonder more teachers leave the profession in the first 5 yrs of teaching than ever before, the lack of respect and support is appealing. There has been NO scientific evidence whatsoever to support the claim that children can’t spread the virus, none. But hey who cares because children get it mildly, and sod the staff because everyone else has to work. Everyone else gets to do social distancing with those the spend all day with, but let’s forget that teachers don’t because it doesn’t fit the narrative. FFS I thought people couldn’t get any worse and then I read this thread

Rach000 · 09/06/2020 22:45

Open with no social distancing, staying off if you have a cough, more hand washing and wiping down.
The kids understand to an extent now they need to be careful and wash hands more. My 5 year old does as school have talked about it from the start.

GreenTulips · 09/06/2020 22:46

How do the older ones social distance?

At what point is a child unable to spread the virus?

How can a bubble of 15 year 10s access their varied classes? Do the geography students listen whilst the history students work online? Does the woodwork teacher pop in with a project?

gluteustothemaximus · 09/06/2020 22:46

Normal school, no social distancing. PPE for staff if they want it. Stay home if have a cough or fever.

If you could trust parents to follow this, then great. But they don't.

They send kids in with vomiting bugs and diarrhoea, they won't take much notice of a cough or fever.

They send them in and then we can't get hold of them to take them home.

If we could all rely on everyone else to 'do the right thing' none of this would be a problem.

twinnywinny14 · 09/06/2020 22:46

@OnlyFoolsnMothers talk about reading what you want to “The role of children in transmission is unclear”
“ Can children pass on coronavirus to others?
This is one of the missing pieces of the puzzle about coronavirus and how it spreads.
It is still not clear how infectious anyone with very mild symptoms or no symptoms at all is - at any age. To understand this we would need widespread antibody testing to identify who has had the virus across the whole population, and work out how they might have caught it. “

twinnywinny14 · 09/06/2020 22:47

@OnlyFoolsnMothers forgot this part too
The government's Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) said the "balance of evidence" suggested children might be both less likely to catch it and, if they do catch it, less likely to pass it on. But the "evidence remains inconclusive," it said.

WowLucky · 09/06/2020 22:47

I don't think teachers can have it all ways. Either they are a highly respected profession that society can't manage without and they need to find a way to make this work (like police, nurses and supermarket workers for example) or they're not.

Mascotte · 09/06/2020 22:49

Send them back now as normal.

Think again should infection rates rise significantly and the NHS look like being in difficulty.

Knackeredmommy · 09/06/2020 22:50

A lot of people really have no idea how poorly funded schools are. Where are these extra staff members & rooms coming from? Seems this isn't about teaching, this is about childcare. So why blame schools? The government set this crap plan, not schools, with no proper strategy or guidance. I'm fed up with it all too, balancing teaching at home, looking after keyworker children at school and nagging my own high school children to learn. We're all in this shit! The Government have handled this so badly. I'll be just as pissed off if schools aren't back to some semblance of normal in September.
And I don't see why playschemes can't cover summer as usual.

FVFrog · 09/06/2020 22:50

@Spottyhands completely agree

pennylane83 · 09/06/2020 22:50

Everyone accept that social distancing simply isn't possible in schools (the advice has always been to social distance where possible). Schools should just reopen as normal but everyone continue to adhere to social distancing guidelines at all other times to minimise the risk in all other areas and for everyone to answer the bloody phone and cooperate with the track and tracers!!