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Will you get healthier to show your appreciation or was clapping enough?

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thenamesarealltaken · 06/06/2020 15:28

Firsty, I'm.sorry if my paragraphs all disappear, as they seem to after I submit, which makes it hard to read. Sorry it's long...

If those who can get healthier, try to, we'll not be expecting our front line workers to take risks with their lives. We clapped for them, now maybe we should be proactive.

Not only us though, front line key workers, especially BAME people, should be advised, encouraged and even supported to get and stay healthy, as they are exposed to more viruses on a daily basis than most.

I try to explain below - sorry it's long....

I've been researching this virus since December and researching for years about how our bodies work, from a holistic view, including how we fight prevent or reverse what some refer to as 'earned' disease, ie. not something we're born with.

Viruses replicate. But, the sars-cov-2 virus is quite sticky compared to the flu and common cold viruses. So that makes it a little harder for our bodies to get rid of it and while it's there, it's replicating and potentially turning into the disease, known as Covid-19 - that is when the real problems start.

Medical professionals have described how this garden thistle/burr like virus sticks more to people with a lot of visceral fat, which makes sense. This gives it time to replicate more, for longer. So the 'skinny fat' and obese are at risk. Many will not have diagnosed illnesses and often seem healthy. But, in bodies like this, or in people who are over exposed to the virus, like some of our front line key workers are, the virus has the potential to replicate a lot more and therefore, potentially cause them to end up with the more destructive Covid-19 disease.

Most of us rely on our immune system to just get on and fight these viruses and generally it does, often without us realising. But, increasingly many don't have such a good immune system anymore. Those with poor diets, deficiencies and other issues such as high stress, poor sleep, hormonal issues, inflammation, poor gut health, deficiencies, such as vit D, overuse of medication, etc., might have weaker immune systems, maybe not consistently. This might not manifest itself as a diagnosed illness or even be known about unless a virus is caught and the person cannot seem to shake it off or for some time. But you know when your immune system is working, when you have fever and aches - that's your body using its resources to fight the virus or infection, leaving other areas weakened.

In the case of people with darker skin living in regions with, on average, low sunshine, the darker their skin, the harder it is for them to absorb vitamin D. So it makes sense to me that a BAME person with a lowered immune system, might be at a higher risk of ending up with Covid-19 if exposed to the virus.

Sadly many BAME people living in countries like the UK are not advised or encouraged to address this and as a consequence, develop disease over time. BAME health workers for example, could be supported more by ensuring they are receiving the right combination of supplements and time out during the day. I think all front line key workers should be given free, regular check ups and during a crisis like this pandemic, given shift patterns that allow them to keep their immune system strong, and of course, they should definitely have PPE.

And of course, what about front line key workers who spend time with our babies and children.... I agree about the low risk of children spreading the virus. A lot of children have super strong immune systems because they're not old enough to have degraded their systems. Although those with a terrible lifestyle might have slightly weaker immune systems. Still, it takes years! Children fight most viruses very quickly compared with adults. Before viruses have a chance to replicate too much, they're gone. Children who already have other diseases and ill health, of course, need shielding. But, in general, we still need to ensure our children are not deficient and I believe in the idea of giving them all a highly nutritious free school meal, unless of course they have medically advised special dietary requirements.

But, the government can't do everything. We insisted for decades we didn't want a nanny state, then proceeded to fill up on burgers, chips, pizza, cake,... sweetners, protein powder! junk! We sit at office desks, in front of games consoles, in front of TVs, snacking, eating crisps, biscuits, cup cakes, drinking fizzy drinks, alcohol, etc. Look at so many people's stomachs... its visceral fat. Our bodies degrade year in year out. Ok, not all, but a huge percentage and over time, people's immune systems are weakening and their body's internals are degrading, not so gracefully. So we end up catching, keeping and spreading illness, as we struggle to fight it. Again, potentially harming our clapped for key workers.

And finally, a vaccination, if you're keen, will only be effective if you're healthy and your immune system can fight the virus they inject you with! It won't be known for years what the long term impacts are. So, I don't see a magic potion appearing anytime soon as it needs thorough testing.

So, we need to look at ourselves honestly and ask, are we doing all we can to fight this virus and others like it? Are we taking responsibility for the health of ourselves, those who depend on us and being considerate to those around us?

To those who are not, please keep socially distant, isolate for longer, use santiser when shopping, wear masks, gloves, anything to stop the spread of viruses your body holds onto, while you get your body's (internals) in better condition. Sorry to sound blunt! I've got a bit of work to do too, so I'll look at me in the mirror and say the same. Having said that, I rarely eat junk and do try to stay healthy. But, I work all day long, including some evenings and night too, at a computer, so I need to address getting healthier too.

What are you doing or going to do to prepare yourself for the end of lockdown, given that the virus WILL be still be around and other viruses are bound to follow? Will you get healthier, even if just to show your appreciation, or was clapping enough?

OP posts:
Northernsoullover · 06/06/2020 15:30

So what do you suggest the skinny fat do? I'd describe myself as such..

howdidwegetheremary · 06/06/2020 15:38

I had a BMI of 29 at the start of lockdown so close to obese. Busy lifestyle, eating out a lot socialising and stress eating. I have since been on a healthy diet and have lost around 1.5 stone bringing BMI down to 27, not there but on the way. I have also been taking vitamin D.

feelingverylazytoday · 06/06/2020 15:44

@Northernsoullover

So what do you suggest the skinny fat do? I'd describe myself as such..
Do exercise involving resistance, and eat the right amount of protein is the right course of action here. I already look after my health, OP. For my own sake really, I like feeling healthy and active, but it's nice to know I'm doing my bit to not be a burden.
PurpleDaisies · 06/06/2020 15:46

I've been researching this virus since December and researching for years about how our bodies work, from a holistic view, including how we fight prevent or reverse what some refer to as 'earned' disease, ie. not something we're born with.

I’m interested in what scientific qualifications you’ve got.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 06/06/2020 15:48

I need to lose a bit of weight, about a stone and a half. Which I want to do anyway.

But apart from that, not much. I don't think I'm a burden on the NHS anyway, I've only ever been to hospital once with a suspected broken ankle and I never really go to the GP.

boatyroo · 06/06/2020 15:54

You seem to know a lot more about how this works than many scientists...

FourTeaFallOut · 06/06/2020 15:54

I’m interested in what scientific qualifications you’ve got.

Ooh, me too. Someone this bossy and patronising must be extremely well qualified.

fallfallfall · 06/06/2020 16:23

Not that I believe your Vit D stuff BUT, staying or improving your health is common sense. Smoking, drug use, over eating, are all activities that are unhealthy and ultimately cost health care...along with risk taking speeding skydiving parasailing or skiing.

Lemons1571 · 06/06/2020 16:33

I’m quite interested in this bit:

vaccination, if you're keen, will only be effective if you're healthy and your immune system can fight the virus they inject you with!

So are you saying that the clinically vulnerable people with underlying conditions will be back of the queue as there’s no point vaccinating them?

Scampersaur · 06/06/2020 16:34

I don’t understand why some people think that they have total control over their health. Maybe it’s their way of thinking that something bad will never happen to them? Yes, of course people understand the basics of the strong benefits of exercise and good nutrition, but good health can also be a lottery. My 11 year old got Covid so badly and is still not recovered over 80 days later. He has always eaten well and has a six pack from all the sport he plays. Hasn’t previously visited a GP for anything other than the prescribed baby checks/ vaccines. 100% school attendance most years. No one would have predicted he would suffer so badly. It’s certainly not his fault.

Isthisfinallyit · 06/06/2020 16:36

I've been researching this virus since December and researching for years about how our bodies work, from a holistic view, including how we fight prevent or reverse what some refer to as 'earned' disease, ie. not something we're born with.

Did you do double blind testing with patients? Or did you do scientific tests via a lab or hospital?

Or did you just google stuff? Because googling isn't research. You can google anything and think you were right in the first place, like that the earth is flat or round, the moon landing was real or fake, 5G caused Corona or not.

Everythingsgoingmyway · 06/06/2020 16:38

Ah yes, another one who thinks 'research' is the same as 'reading stuff on the internet'.

Isthisfinallyit · 06/06/2020 16:38

And finally, a vaccination, if you're keen, will only be effective if you're healthy and your immune system can fight the virus they inject you with!*

You missed some googling here, they don't always inject LIVE virusses, a lot of times they inject ineffective virusses that won't harm you but just trigger the immune respons, so you can be totally weak and it will still work.

Catastrofuck · 06/06/2020 16:40

I didn’t clap. Am I allowed to be unhealthy?

TinyPigeon · 06/06/2020 16:41

TLDR: Honestly don't bother

Catastrofuck · 06/06/2020 16:41

(I also got bored about two paragraphs into the OP, so my question may have been covered)

GabriellaMontez · 06/06/2020 16:43

Is your research published?

howdidwegetheremary · 06/06/2020 16:45

The OP stated that the research was from a ‘holistic’ viewpoint so I took that to mean reading papers and not actual lab testing.

Darcydashwood · 06/06/2020 16:54

Goady thread title Biscuit

Musicforsmorks · 06/06/2020 16:55

.... posts this a lot
Fuck those who have chronic or other conditions, they’re not trying, duh..

BamboozledandBefuddled · 06/06/2020 16:58

I didn't clap and hell will freeze over before I give up alcohol or smoking.

TorysSuckRevokeArticle50 · 06/06/2020 16:59

Holy fuck, you absolute twazzock.

You have seriously written that fat folk should stay away from you to stop them spreading their nasty fat people germs on you!!,

"To those who are not, please keep socially distant, isolate for longer, use santiser when shopping, wear masks, gloves, anything to stop the spread of viruses your body holds onto, while you get your body's (internals) in better condition. Sorry to sound blunt! I've got a bit of work to do too, so I'll look at me in the mirror and say the same. Having said that, I rarely eat junk and do try to stay healthy. But, I work all day long, including some evenings and night too, at a computer, so I need to address getting healthier too."

Unbelievable!

ragged · 06/06/2020 17:00

DS says screw the clapping, pay the nurses & carers higher wages instead. More money in pocket is better than clapping.

I never clapped but I would vote for tax rises to pay the nurses more.

Lemons1571 · 06/06/2020 17:02

I didn't clap and hell will freeze over before I give up alcohol or smoking

Love this! My new motto

squeekums · 06/06/2020 17:07

I didn't clap and hell will freeze over before I give up alcohol or smoking
Here here!!

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