Well, well, well face masks mandatory on public transport now

[Cherryghost]

It's now mandatory to wear face mask on public transport with exceptions for disability, young children etc.
This should have been done ages ago.
They also admitting face masks offers some protection

Tip, for those with cloth masks, you need not wash them. You can just use a very hot steam iron on the cotton ones, the temperature of the steam and iron will sanatise the mask.

Faraway20 ok so you don’t believe your body is yours

What if you've had Covid ?

Irrelevant you still have to wear one. There is no way to police this unless everyone wears them. Maybe in future there will be exemptions for people with positive antibody tests (though I hope not as it will create a real two tier society) and maybe people will have passes to excuse them having to wear one but at the moment there is no evidence for how long immunity lasts so I imagine they won't take that into account.

I always used to look at mask wearers in other countries and cities eg Tokyo and they they looked a bit precious and OTT. Now were having it forced on us.

Bloody hell onlyfoolsandmothers how many points are you going to connect to face coverings? You’re making connections that have no basis right now and you’ve descended into implications our organs are being harvested for nefarious purposes!

Governments can turn on their people from seemingly no where, everything happening now is based on living with a novel virus that we have no way to predict or predict the impact (much will be reliant on the global impact).

You’ve gone so far down the rabbit hole you’ve struck the mantle...

Its really not hard to comply. You'd expect your surgeon, anaesthetist or nurse to wear one during an operation. You'd expect them to wear them in a covid ward. You just need to get used to wearing them.

I really didn't like it at first when I wore them to go to the supermarket at the beginning of lockdown but you soon get used to it. Its not an invasion of your freedom and rights any more than it is your surgeon's for your operation. If you won't do this for other people stay home or walk.

To those crying about hysteria - China had fascemasks as mandatory for around 3 months - and they helped in getting the virus to zero. And now for the past 4 weeks everyone is going out without facemasks, without social distancing, enjoying shops, cafes and the summer.

The UK dithered by contrast led the way in dithering and hesitating and pussyfooting around and now we are in a mess and now people dont know whether they're coming or going and neither does the government.

@comefromaway mental health difficulties that have been ongoing for 12 months or more with impact on daily function are considered disabilities under the Equality Act.

Worth having a try with CBT techniques but may also be exempted

Yet again, I end up asking why do other countries seem to manage to cope with any restrictions bought in, and we don't. And I am not talking about the likes of China where people are used to being ruled by the state, but other European countries.

My DB in Germany has been wearing one in shops and on public transport for months now as it’s been compulsory there. Why are we so late to adopt anything that other countries with more success in keeping infection rates down have done? I don’t get it. I emailed the PMs office about 6 weeks ago asking if they would do it here on the basis it can’t harm, is not costly and if enough people have to do it it might cut down transmission. I didn’t expect or get a reply but I can’t see why they’re only doing it now.

"that response was to someone who deliberately acted like this would apply to everyone when common sense says there would be exceptions for people in her situation or other medical conditions.'
Common sense not needed thank God because so many have none. When Grant Shapps informed the country of this at the Daily Briefing, he stated what the exceptions are. You just need to be bothered to watch it or read the newspaper properly.

And badges for people unable to wear the damn things is quite chilling actually. Anyone else seeing parallels to a certain period in history particularly with neighbour's grassing on each other, leaders being hero worshipped and badges being suggested?

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

I agree... Yet another rule that takes away our freedom to cause damage and harm to others! It’s a disgraceful attack on our freedom. Wish we were back in the Stone Age where there were no laws stopping us harming people.... These days you can’t even drive home after a bottle of whisky or shout racist abuse without getting trouble with the law, and now they want to make me wear a mask to stop me asymptomatically infecting a bus driver or vulnerable passenger with a lung condition with Covid - the bastards!.... If I want to infect a bus driver I should bloody well have the right do it!

Coffeecak3 Thu 04-Jun-20 19:08:35
@phoebesphalange How many years were people expected to carry gas masks for after the war? Oh, they weren’t.
New normal!
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Yes but we are not yet 'after' the pandemic, it is just far less than it was, therefore lockdown is easing. We don't want it to flare up all over again do we? As for masks, I know some say they don't work but it doesn't hurt to wear one in public.

I put one on to go & get bread & milk yesterday & my glasses steamed up cos it was a bit colder than it has been. I couldn't wear the mask & see at the same time.

that response was to someone who deliberately acted like this would apply to everyone when common sense says there would be exceptions for people in her situation or other medical conditions.

Deliberately...no. It was a knee jerk panic stricken response. It seemed to me that you were attacking everyone presenting a reason why they couldn't wear one. It's a massive source of stress to me because I essentially rebuilt my life afterwards and with the exception of dh, no one who is an active part of my life now knows what happened. Close friends know I see a psychiatrist/have had therapy but they presume it's for something else entirely which wouldn't have a bearing on masks. They also know I don't have breathing issues/autism/sensory issues or anything else which could play a part.

everything happening now is based on living with a novel virus a virus that isn’t going to disappear, I’m not happy to live forever covering my face in public, if I did perhaps I’d move to Saudi!
We could put in common sense approaches that don’t impact the majority, who lets face it aren’t at risk of covid killing them.

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

Faraway20 ok so you don’t believe your body is yours

Yes dear, that's what I said isn't it.

@Madein1995

And badges for people unable to wear the damn things is quite chilling actually. Anyone else seeing parallels to a certain period in history particularly with neighbour's grassing on each other, leaders being hero worshipped and badges being suggested?

Can we stop all the nazi shit please? Its really offensive. Who has actually said that anyone needs to wear badges?? And hero worship? Boris??

If you can't draw a distinction between wearing masks to prevent the spread of a novel, virulent disease and nazi Germany then you really need to educate yourself.

@Madein1995

And badges for people unable to wear the damn things is quite chilling actually. Anyone else seeing parallels to a certain period in history particularly with neighbour's grassing on each other, leaders being hero worshipped and badges being suggested?

It's probably a good thing most children aren't in school. If they were, they'd probably be 'encouraged' to report their parents for breaching guidance.

And what about my right not to cover my genitals in public! No one cares about that, and you can’t even catch anything from those unless you get really, really close (not that you would with me of course!)

"Yet again, I end up asking why do other countries seem to manage to cope with any restrictions bought in, and we don't."
I agree with these sentiments. So many moaners on here. The education system needs to be amended to teach people resilience.

Some say the lockdown was too relaxed in the UK but can you imagine the uproar if the Govt had made it more strict if people kick off about wearing a face-covering on public transport?

If you can't draw a distinction between wearing masks to prevent the spread of a novel, virulent disease and nazi Germany then you really need to educate yourself.

Agreed, it’s ridiculous...

Wear a badge or be verbally attacked - or worse - by random members of the public. And you think that can be excused because there's a pandemic?

I'm just aware how people can be. Nearer the start of lockdown I got really shouted at in public for being out and 'not exercising' as I was next to my bike. I had literally stopped for 1 minute to tie my shoelace as it was a hazard while riding.

You just have to be ready to defend yourself if you're perceived to be not following a rule.

Faraway20 firstly you can park the patronising “dear”, if you don’t agree with me that’s fine. But yes this government did introduce a measure that said they assume consent of organ donation. In what other aspect of life is consent presumption
Ok?!