Schools fubared till November?

[Clemmieandareallybigbunfight]

Disruption to schools could continue to November, MPs told www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-52895640

Is this a dystopian joke?

Are we actually trying to fuck up our kids?

Schools need to be instructed to open fully five days a week with enhanced on day cleaning, increased buses to allow distancing, staggered start and finish, covered but open refuge areas allowing distancing whilst outside in all weathers for breaks and no assemblies. Relatively low investment needed, huge gain economically but more importantly for our kids education and mental health. Some of these kids will never get back to school if they are out for so long. Some will fail to achieve their potential. And all for an illness with a tiny mortality rate overall?

They're not allowed masks.

Wales are re opening all schools. Saw it earlier on news. My kids went bk monday (keyworker reception child and y5 child and they are very happy and school are very well organised

Actually, a few children will prefer smaller classes and sitting like that. Many of the sen pupils I've taught like working like that.

The working age population is not under 45! Some of us buck the trend in an ever younger teaching workforce...

But obviously we can't magic a giant doubling machine up to clone staff and classrooms.

I agree @Eyewhisker and @highmarkingsnowbile

I have asked several times how it was schools were fully open, parents nights, the lot when the virus was circulating widely, without kids and teachers dropping dead all over the place, right up until they closed - but after what will be 5 months, cases right down, and largely people over 75 being impacted, that they can only open on a half arsed basis. Anyone?

Sending kids back with none of the fun stuff is not such a positive.

What a load of shite.

My high school DC would be absolutely giddy over just going into school and seeing other kids and having actual lessons. It's not as simple as just missing a couple of months of education. It's everything they have had to deal with, being stuck in a tiny house, trying to do the online work with not enough help from me as I'm working ft, getting no marking or feedback, not seeing friends or family. Now I'm letting them out to meet friends but the oldest is just depressed now and feels really socially awkward. He has spent hours a day gaming, and the meltdowns have been epic.
I am nearly broken just thinking about getting thru a summer with no holiday, no break, no respite.
And I'm better off than a lot of people. Our school is actively discouraging even vulnerable and kw children. They have tons of space and loads of young white female teachers but everything is can't, won't, too hard.
I get that schools are broke and it's the government's fault but honestly, at work I have to find solutions on a daily basis and there's such a sense of "nope" from teaching unions, and all the primary teachers I know who go on and on about snotty kids who don't social distance, when all the 11 and over kids I know have been really really compliant, so why can't we trust them a bit to be sensible?
Can't they at least go back part time for mental health?
And my work are not remotely interested that I'm a lone parent trying to deal with all this. I CAN'T be all nope in my job.

So here we are again, single mothers and their children with get the shitty end as per.
When I end up losing my job I will have to retrain as a teacher anyway cos there won't be any other bloody jobs left.

Thank you to all the teachers on here who are thinking positively btw, it means a lot to know you're out there.

Wales are re opening all schools. Saw it earlier on news

But only a maximum of 1/3 of the school will be in at once.

@Chosennone
I'm a teacher. I was saddened when my line manager told me today, that our current planning (for year 10 back partially on 15th June) will continue in the same vein into Autumn Term

How the hell does she know what will be happening in Autumn term?Even the scientists advising the government don't know. That negativity makes me furious and just fuels this whole school 'can't do' attitude.

It doesn't say it but I wonder if part of this is due to the need for schools to potentially run exams in October and November as resits for those who don't get the grade they want this summer. For secondary schools, this has the potential to be quite logistically difficult if lots of people want to retake lots of gcses, for example.

So having extras in the building as well as the usual children, meaning schools are even fuller than usual, and using large indoor spaces.

I'm just wondering if there is a link, because November is when these exams are supposed to end, and otherwise it seems odd to have everything going back to normal in December.

My son's school has moved outside.........they also have large grounds so can do this.

Most haven't these days, that tends to happen when the school fields are sold off left, right and centre. 💁🏻‍♀️

I've no idea what the answer is, I do know it's difficult to socially anything in a school and I don't blame the teachers for not wanting to put their lives at risk. Then again a teacher in a school not far from me died of Corona virus at the very start of the whole thing.

'Fubared' ???? Wtf

@SudokuBook

I agree *@Eyewhisker and @highmarkingsnowbile*

I have asked several times how it was schools were fully open, parents nights, the lot when the virus was circulating widely, without kids and teachers dropping dead all over the place, right up until they closed - but after what will be 5 months, cases right down, and largely people over 75 being impacted, that they can only open on a half arsed basis. Anyone?

Again.... The government (partly) closed schools. The government have chosen the parameters for the limited return of pupils. They are the only ones who can really answer your repeated question.

Probably also worth remembering that over 80% of deaths with Covid 19 have been in individuals who are already over the average life expectancy.

@Appuskidu does your school really have a 1/3 shielding? That many clinical extremely vulnerable? It's not all vulnerable that are shielding.
My workplace is elderly (mostly 50s/60s) and of 350 people we only have a dozen shielding for themselves or immediate family.

If we included the clinically vulnerable, due to the age of workforce, we would likely be at 1/3.. Asthma, high blood pressure and heart disease... Including myself and all but 1 of my team... But these aren't shielding, won't get a letter from GP, can go to work if cant work from home and are in work as key workers.

Some have had conversations with GP to confirm but in general they are back...

Yes, those who have additional support needs like high-functioning autism, ADHD, dyslexia and the like are just rotten little punk arses addicted to screens

I quite like that description for DS, made me smile at least.

Jesus that's offensive nike.

What a shame that the majority of parents seem to regard this bonus time they have to spend with their children as an "inconvenience".

Only a judgmental simpleton would post this.

I love having my dc at home with me. Whilst I work p/t, my work is flexible, we are much less busy, have time to cook and bake together and enjoy the amazing spring weather. I enjoy being more involved with their learning and spending lovely time together, I absolutely love it.

But they are not getting the education they deserve (remote learning is in no way comparable with normal school). They're missing out so much on their extra curricular activities. They're missing their friends desperately even though they video chat with them.

I'm glad that we have had a break form the usual rushing around but the children are not getting the education that they should be getting. Don't get me wrong, they are doing school work but whilst our school is pretty good with teaching remotely they learn maybe 30% of what they would have learned if schools had been teaching them.

I enjoy having my dc around but I know they are being failed by the government.

I know that we had to lockdown but there should have been a better plan to let all year groups return to school in a part-time fashion before the holidays.

I have zero faith in the government, they are not keeping the population safe and at the same time the economy has nose dived. They are a bunch of charlatans making it up as they see fit. At the end of this tunnel is a no deal Brexit. Yeah.

I would really love to support them my arse.

@SudokuBook once again for those at the back, that's because of the risk assessments necessitated by the government guidelines, not because schools just don't feel like it. Nobody was dropping dead at Sainsbury's before the lockdown either even amongst the fights for toilet paper so why do they bother with social distancing and the bloody trolley queues, eh? It's a little thing called liability, which dictates the way all organisations need to operate in our litigious society, together with direct guidelines from the government. Direct your ire there if you must, but it really does come across as you being bored and inconvenienced, and wanting to dress this up as something else.

@TheFallenMadonna

That's utter sophistry and you know it.

It is the teaching unions that are blocking the re-opening of the schools.

1m and most of the problems vanish.

Masks in assembly and all crowded places (not in class).
Strict handwashing after all breaks and before meals.
Make sure that boys wash their hands even after a wee.

No shared plates of food or staffroom biscuits

The long term reduction in school borne infections could be significant

Jesus that's offensive nike.

Is it though? Isn't it just a fact? Why do you choose to be offended?

@NikeDeLaSwoosh that's absolutely horrendous - you don't even dress it up as concern of any kind.