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Scientists can't answer a political issue

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EveryoneLoves09876 · 28/05/2020 19:50

So he admitted it was all about politics? And that the reason he wasn't asked to leave was due to politics?

I do wonder what the scientists really feel about all of this.

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EveryoneLoves09876 · 28/05/2020 19:50

(Cummings, obviously)

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EwwSprouts · 28/05/2020 19:54

Works for me if special advisors with history degrees aren't allowed to interfere in science guidance.

EveryoneLoves09876 · 28/05/2020 19:58

It's the other way round though!

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WhiteChocTwix · 28/05/2020 20:05

I can't work out if the scientists told Boris beforehand "Your mess we're not dealing with it" or whether he surpressed their opinions. I would love to know what they really think. Sir P and CW are the two I like to listen to. Still feels like institutional whitewashing on a grand scale.

tabulahrasa · 28/05/2020 20:09

@WhiteChocTwix

I can't work out if the scientists told Boris beforehand "Your mess we're not dealing with it" or whether he surpressed their opinions. I would love to know what they really think. Sir P and CW are the two I like to listen to. Still feels like institutional whitewashing on a grand scale.
I kind of assume they weren’t willing to lie, so it was decided between them all that they’d just not answer instead.
EveryoneLoves09876 · 28/05/2020 20:11

Which is awful!

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PurpleDaisies · 28/05/2020 20:12

This was reminiscent of something trump would do and absolutely not something a British prime minister should be doing.

WhiteChocTwix · 28/05/2020 20:15

@tabulahrasa I think you're right! It says a lot they didn't come out in defence of DC.

NotAnotherUserNumber · 28/05/2020 20:18

CW and PV are civil servants, it isn’t their job to have to comment on this stupid mess.

Artinsurance · 28/05/2020 20:21

I got the impression that Chris Whitt's was very angry when he responded that he didn't want to be drawn into anything political.

AgeLikeWine · 28/05/2020 20:24

I’m a science graduate, and If I were in Whitty or Vallance’s position I would most certainly refuse to defend or justify Cummings’ behaviour, so I don’t blame them for refusing to answer questions about it.

PurpleDaisies · 28/05/2020 20:26

CW and PV are civil servants, it isn’t their job to have to comment on this stupid mess.

Yes but they should (and later did) say that for themselves. It’s not for Boris to forbid questions like that to be asked of them.

WhiteChocTwix · 28/05/2020 20:37

I would have thought given we're all following actions that are driven by science the scientists ought to have been able to speak about the whole episode freely?

verybritishproblems · 28/05/2020 20:40

I think as civil servants both Vallance & Whitty have to remain impartial and stick to facts rather than opinions.

EveryoneLoves09876 · 28/05/2020 20:43

I agree about being impartial and talking about the science, but wasn't the question about science?

Boris basically admitted it was political and not science based which said it all I thought.

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RoseAndRose · 28/05/2020 20:47

I expect we shall, one day maybe far in the future, find out what sterling work the scientists did in preventing the worst options, by staying 'within the tent'

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