At last! 6 people can meet in a garden!

[BruceAndNosh]

WE can meet family

This is great and preparation for the next spike, they wanted in a few weeks. We'll soon have that herd immunity.

Kids can play out distanced if they can be trusted to remain at a social distance (or with parents supervising), but still cannot use communal play equipment and ideally shouldn't share any other play equipment. Ideally this would be the same friends on each occasion to minimise the numbers of different households they are coming into contact with.

Obviously the size of your garden dictates how many people you can have that is common sense

@randomer

How absolutely stupid. So people in flats can't meet up? Pathetic. CHAOS

What the fuck do you want? Last week it was all how stupid it’s public spaces only, what difference does it make if it’s a garden! Now the garden isn’t good enough either. Indoors is higher risk. It’s a virus. Sorry! I’m shielded, still stuck indoors and can’t see anyone. It’s shit, but it’s not anyone’s fault.

Speaking at Thursday's Downing Street briefing, Mr Johnson told people they should "try to avoid seeing people from too many households in quick succession" to help "avoid the risk of transmission from lots of different families".

Also means you can meet friends as well as family

"loads of people have been doing this since day 1 with no ill effects "

Um. 37,000 deaths is no ill effects?

The situation isn’t better - meeting up with people is probably still a bad idea. I couldn’t be bothered meeting some people in a garden tbh! I still don’t want to make my mum I’ll by accident just for the sake of coming to her garden!

Going out is bloody awful - our high street is so busy at the moment

I don’t get why people are like yay Boris said we can met people - doesn’t mean you should!

Il be staying put a bit longer until the situation is actually better.

As for people excited about shops being open Soon? I mean, I can’t think of anything Worse than queuing with the general public outside shops!

This is good news.

The people complaining that their families are already 5/6 so they can’t meet with others are being silly. They’ve already had 4/5 other people to socialise with during this time so waiting a little longer shouldn’t be an issue compared to couples or single people.

Great but doesn't help those of us with very young children - 9 year old gets it but how am I supposed to explain to an 18month old that he can't go and hug nana/grandad? May as well not see them for the tears that will cause.

Yet it would be quite ok for me to send him back to the childminder full time from Monday so that he can mix with 6 or 7 other families who have been god knows where?!

@DrFoxtrot
If you both live alone and are willing to self isolate for 14 days if one of you becomes symptomatic there's no reason not to do that now. Obviously if either of you live with others (and especially if either of you are married...) it becomes a lot more complicated as it's not really fair to put others at a higher risk of self isolation in order to shag.

so can i use their toilet while im there or nt i wont last even a couple of hours

Using a toilet is fine

@MayFayre

Assume the wait until Monday is so that half term is over.

Our family are all 3 hours drive away so this isn’t an option for us. Very excited to see friends again though.

If you're that desperate to see them, meet at a park half way.

I can see sales if camping toilets & toilet tents soaring! 🤣

Also..it’s like people forget the reason we are not meant to met people - the virus - it’s not gone? Literally nothing is different to last week. Unless you live alone I don’t get why you can’t cope a bit longer without meeting people! I’d love to see my parents - but it’s just not worth the risk to them

It does seem that for some whatever is done be it track and trace or meeting family it won’t be good enough

KaptenKrusty

How much longer?

@StatisticalSense I am working with potential Covid cases so there is a risk. However, the risk is there for my children and would be for him if we were married/ living together, so we have decided that it's worth him taking that risk. He's isolated so we are in a bubble but two different houses. I am not ready to move him in with the kids.

So yes, we've met and I have been less than 2m from him. I would just like it to be legal .

I thought that they were going to introduce bubbles whereby we could mix with one other family? This is less restrictive in my view, as you could have a BBQ with five other people from five different households and then do exactly the same to next day and so on. I can imagine teenagers/young adults doing this, but without adhering to the social distancing.

@KaptenKrusty
Presumably you are one of the lucky ones (presumably living with a spouse) if you are finding the current way of life more than barely tolerable. Many people simply cannot cope with the current lack of social contact any longer and will massively benefit from being able to meet up with others even if they have to remain socially distanced and 2 metres apart. This includes many teenagers who have had no opportunity to express thoughts they don't want their parents to find out about, people living alone who may well have spoken to nobody in person for months, or single parents who needs some adult contact.

@ikeairgin

So glad we kept the gardiners toilet now - hubby wanted to demolish it for extra storage space.

You'll still need to be careful about who is using it (only one other household & not yours) and making sure all the taps /flush/locks/handles are disinfected.

But yes, yours will be the popular garden to visit!

@tiddlesthecat - Bubbles too much drama tbh. Licking one family out could cause a lot of upset

I’m not telling anyone what to do @Nanny0gg - by all means see your family/friends - But I will be carrrying I’m working at home and not seeing people outside my house for the foreseeable! I just think because Boris says you can do something, doesn’t mean it’s safe or that you should! Il be continuing with video calls to my folks for now. If I brought the virus to their garden and got sick it would be my fault - and then all this previous lockdown was for nothing.

The people complaining that their families are already 5/6 so they can’t meet with others are being silly. They’ve already had 4/5 other people to socialise with during this time so waiting a little longer shouldn’t be an issue compared to couples or single people.

Children and grandparents from larger families don't miss each other any less.

Regardless, it's the mandatory 14 day isolation even if asymptomatic that's scuppered us seeing my parents and siblings for the longer term. They'll want to see us and I had hoped to visit them in the summer, minimising infection risk. However they have a far wider social circle, many more social and work contacts than us, I can't risk us becoming part of a lengthy self isolation chain connected to them.

@GiveMummyTheWhizzer

Well, if you have been scrupulous at distancing/avoided supermarkets/shops/going out and taken all all precautions and your parents have too and isolated, instinct might tell you that it's probably safer to see your parents than you child mixing with others at nursery (esp if their parents are key workers). That's the good thing about the new 'instinct' clause. It allows you to exercise your own judgement!

Unless you live alone I don’t get why you can’t cope a bit longer without meeting people!

Theres a lot of reasons. Each of them valid. Just because yu have decided its too large a risk for your parents, does not mean someone else will come to that conclusion, and thats fine of course. Both would be 'right' IMO.

Everyone will assess their personal circumstances and decide accordingly. Which is how it should be really.

And those worried about getting ill/giving it to others in the meantime? Stay in if you want.

If it starts getting too overboard, 'rules' will be changed. But for now, some normality is a godsend tbh.