Test and trace and tests for all - will everyone opt for testing?

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Just listening to the briefing and the whole thing rests on everyone going and getting a test sorted for themselves and their children etc so they know who to discuss the tracing with and then the tracing contacts all isolate. Will everyone come forward and get tested?

I've seen some people saying they wouldn't get their child tested or they didn't want a test in case it hurt or people (particularly in my hospital when covid was at its high and we were all knackered) a rest for 2 weeks was more preferable than a test and quick return!!

Everyone won't, but hopefully enough people will.

In the same way, everyone won't isolate when told to, but as long as most of us do it should be ok.

I’m just back with my dcs from a test. It was such an easy smooth experience from booking to the test itself. It did not hurt at all (my 8 year old and 7 year old made gaggy noises while i swabbed their throats thoroughly) all the army personal we’re friendly clear and non threatening. I mean it was really easy. My 3 year old came along for the ride. They loved it- it was like a day out! But yes maybe some won’t bother. I just think we all have a social responsibility.

Woman in charge of track and trace was in charge of Talk talk when they had all their customers data stolen - doesnt inspire confidence !

I think it'll depend on how easy it is. I expect that if people struggle to book a slot, for example, then they might just not bother.

I don't think people will. They needed to this right at the beginning - when people didn't want the virus in the country. Now people want to get back to normal - soon it will get to the point where people simply can't afford to isolate. I would but I can see younger people the 18 - 30yr olds, who have little risk of serious complications - particularly those who don't have children but need to work either won't go for the test or won't isolate if given a warning to isolate due to contact with an infected person. Everything with our governments reaction to this virus is too little too late!!

44% of recent deaths were from care homes... I just think most contact will be with vulnerable people, not random non-residential situations.

I feel positive about it

It also makes me a bit more cautious about getting out and about too much (like shopping or this cinema etc) as I don't particularly want to be on a hit list! Maybe there is something psychological in this system as well!

@lljkk that's true.

I work in a hospital so no idea what will happen when a positive case is diagnosed....the whole clinical environment will have to isolate???

I might be missing something obvious but:

• how are they getting around GDPR with this, so I get a call saying I'm positive, I then give the NHS handler uncle joes name, address and phone number, same for cousin bob and aunt Jane. NHS has those details in a database and calls them. They haven't given permission for their data to be given or used, how is it stored, how long for and for what other purposes?

• If I got it, then the only places I have been are Tesco and Asda and wouldn't have the contact details of anyone else who was there and presumably NHS won't either, does it just dead end there?

the new rules will do my head in... so the contacted but not symptomatic ("you may have been exposed") person has to isolate, but not rest of their household

Who is going to fuck that up (answer = most of us)

I might get tested but the only motivation would be to know if I have had it. If I wasn't tested I would isolate to be on the safe side. I isolated with loss of smell as only real symptom nearly two months before the govt decided people with that symptom should isolate.

If I thought I had infected anyone I had met I would let them know myself, I dont think I would involve any contact tracers.

'If I got it, then the only places I have been are Tesco and Asda and wouldn't have the contact details of anyone else who was there and presumably NHS won't either, does it just dead end there?'

Yes, until the app launches.

But you'd be unlikely to have been in close contact for more than 15 mins with anyone at Asda or Tesco (unless you'd needed first aid or something in which case you would be able to contact the store and say 'that staff member who attended me when I broke my leg on aisle 6 needs to self isolate').

It would be impossible to test my son unless he is sedated.

Hopefully people will do their civic duty and self isolate if told to do so, but I imagine many won't.

What if you got the message to self isolate on the morning of your long awaited hair appointment? I can imagine some people just ignoring it, or not start isolating until the next day.

@easylifer what if you are the self employed hairdresser who hasn't been able to work for 4 months with hardly any money coming in, a single parent and a long list of clients who are texting everyday to have their hair cut and worrying their loyal clients will go elsewhere ....like me. There is no way on this earth I will be participating. I am not going to finally be able to work again and then 1 client unfortunately gets it so I have to cancel all and have another 2 wks off just incase!
Why can't they just test everyone!

Not going to happen!
Sorry it's not my duty, everyone has to make their own desisions, go to work, stay at home, go to the hairdresser

Hopefully people will do their civic duty and self isolate if told to do so, but I imagine many won't

I think I'll be following my instincts, using good, solid British common sense and, if all else fails, claiming 'exceptional circumstances'.

Yes not good for hairdressers, reasonable chance that over time you will do a positive persons hair but think i read that if you have ppe on your then not needed to isolate?

Nah, they shat on ‘We’re all in this together’ this week. People feel actually stupid and cheated because they followed the rules. And like it’s not what good parents do. So I expect a lot of people will now just use their own judgment and instincts.

Thing is, you can't just self isolate instead of getting a test now as that breaks the chain. You need the test so the trace people contact you to take you through your contacts.

If you're wearing PPE, you do t have to isolate so NhS and hairdressers if they use it will be except that way.

I can't see some people adhering to this, risking their livelihood, school place, freedoms etc.

We isolated for 14 days when I was ill. It went on and on. If I times that by 4 should each household member be affected then we will be hostage to our homes.

People feel actually stupid and cheated because they followed the rules
true, but they have us in a cleft stick now, unless the virus goes away on it's own the only way out of this is for individuals to act in the interests of society as a whole:(

I think it sounds sensible, much better for only those that have been exposed to have to stay home rather than the whole country!
It would have been great if we had had it weeks ago, but that's no reason to not take part now.

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GDPR can be overruled by things that are in the ‘substantial public interest.’ They’ll have to produce a rock solid policy document describing exactly what they’re doing with the data. Not that they’ll necessarily stick to it...

I might get tested but the only motivation would be to know if I have had it.

The swab test doesn't tell you that, only if you currently have it. You'd need a blood test to check for antibodies