Anyone know how many people under 45 with no underlying comorbidity have died fron CV in the UK

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By no means trying to say any death from CV isn't tragic and really sympathise with anyone who has lost a loved friend or relative.
Trying to find data on the above out of interest, but can only see that around 350 people in this age category have died from CV but not whether they were also in a high risk category.

It’s about 40, it was on the NHS website but they seem to have taken that bit of data off the spreadsheet for some reason? As a female you have a 50% less risk, so you half that figure.

Thanks that’s really interesting. Weird how hard it is to get hold of these numbers.

About 6000 I think, twice as many as in 911 so not much really to worry about particularly if we omit how many people may have got the virus from them while they were contagious.

Not for the UK it’s not? Just under 500 have died under 45 and about 40 of thise had no underlying health conditions.

More or less the radio 4 podcast said is aged 20-40 with no underlying health conditions then your chance of dying during the peak (hopefully the first and last!) was 3 in 1,000,000.

Don't forget though, that they include asthma, diabetes & a whole bunch of things as underlying that a lot of people don't even know that have. And if those who do, the vast majority of the people with 'underlying' conditions We're living ordinary lives, unhindered by their 'condition' with the expectation of living a normal life span.

People who were running marathons & stuff have died.

If corse you stand a better chance if survival, but don't be complacent

It's not 6000 at all. It's about 40ish with no underlying conditions.

Yes but the numbers are low, under 500 out of 35000 deaths, yes you can die from Covid under 45 but your risk is small.

I am eligible for the flu shot because I have ceoliac’s disease. All I do for it is avoid gluten. But being a ceoliac has put me into the vulnerable (not extremely vunerable) camp with the government suggesting I stay home.

@ittakes2 still sounds like the risks to you are incredibly low even if in the vulnerable category.

Sadly, this lockdown will kill a lot more than 40 healthy people under-45 as a result of suicide/ homelessness/ alcoholism/ domestic violence (these have already increased, and always increase exponentially during a severe economic downturn). I’m in my 20’s and the future I’ve worked so hard for is starting to look evermore bleak.

Whilst this might provide reassurance to people with Health Anxiety; I'm not sure that it's useful for people to think like this.

It's a very selfish stance to take if you let the fact that under 45s with no underlying conditions mostly survive inform any of your actions at all.

Imagine if the most at-risk of death category was the 'under 18s' but anyone over 18 had a very low risk of death- you'd still be careful wouldn't you?

I think they probably have issues that they have no idea about. For example, my cholesterol levels are on borderline. I otherwise look completely healthy, and no one believes I weigh about 70kg because I hide it well. I think lockdown has probably crept my cholesterol up a notch, and I get out of breath quickly. I recently bought a cross trainer and have found my heart rate is incredibly high at resting and I’ve been suffering from weird wheezing and itchy lungs/coughing every time I work my body up. Now I think I might have asthma and some other issues due to my weight.
If I got covid19, on surface I think I’d be okay, and I do want to get it over and done with, but who knows I might die if I can’t catch my breath?

Also people with a smaller lung capacity for whatever reason (smoking/genetically/obese) probably have a worse chance than someone who doesn’t.

@Medstudent12

I had an operation under anaesthetic and was told my chance of dying from complications was about 1 in 100,000. So I had more chance of dying during that op than I do of covid 19 now? I’m 40, not obese and no asthma or diabetes. Does that sound about right (given your user name 😃).

The thing is we need to go back to work so yes I think under 45’s need to know the risks, I thought I heard on the radio. Furlough is going to 25% from August but can’t find any details?

@TazSyd probably, I'm not statistician though!

Oh gosh my grammar is terrible! So many typos

@Alex50

My understanding on the furlough point is that the money the employee receives will remain at 80% but employers will be expected to contribute 25% rather than the government paying the whole amount.

@Medstudent12 yes that sounds about right. 4 girls under 20 have died, most of those had very serious health issues and didn’t die of Covid.

@Sunshinegirl82 thanks

There's no certainty that anyone (of any age) has no existing conditions. It can only be no known existing conditions. No autopsies are being done on anyone dying where Covid-19 is present at death ("being present" is not the same thing as "the cause of death"). Many, many people have underlying conditions which may or may not ever become a problem that gets diagnosed. I recall back in the swine flu days someone at our workplace - 32, two small children, fit and healthy, runner, good weight / BMI, the works - went ill with swine flu on Tuesday and was dead on Thursday. It was an enormous shock to everyone. An autopsy was done. She had an underlying small defect in her heart. It had never caused her a minutes trouble. The doctors said that it was bad luck. It could have caused death at any time for any reason. Or it might never ever have been a problem and she could have died of "old age".

Apparently just under 300 people have died who didn't have underlying health conditions... .and less than 20 children ( but we don't know if they had any heath conditions)
These are UK figures.

And there's a difference between dying 'of' and dying 'with'
A prolonged lockdown will kill more people longer term

The 300 figure is all ages not just under 40 btw

It's a very selfish stance to take if you let the fact that under 45s with no underlying conditions mostly survive inform any of your actions at all.

I didn't see anyone saying that any or all of their actions would be informed by the fact at all. You are overreacting. But, pray tell, what would you suggest? That we all sit at home until all production grinds to a halt and then die of starvation? People increasingly need to make risk assessments about how they get back to normal life, for themselves and for everyone around them. There are actually other just as great risks out there. Sepsis kills, on average, 44,000 people in the UK every year. That's more than bowel, breast and prostate cancer and road accidents combined. There are an estimated 123,000 cases of sepsis per year. Most cases are community transmissions. Are there any headlines about that? What are you doing to avoid being infected? Without looking it up, do you actually know what to do to avoid infection or what the early symptoms are? Most people don't.

If we were to live life based on what might kill us or others, then we'd never set foot outside the house ever. On the other hand, given what can kill us in the house....well, that's a whole long list of things too.