Anyone know how many people under 45 with no underlying comorbidity have died fron CV in the UK

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By no means trying to say any death from CV isn't tragic and really sympathise with anyone who has lost a loved friend or relative.
Trying to find data on the above out of interest, but can only see that around 350 people in this age category have died from CV but not whether they were also in a high risk category.

Here are the figures from NHS website, they did have a tab for sex and no underlying health issues but have been taken off. 200 overall deaths for under 40’s, 15 have died under 20, 4 of those were girls.

www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/05/COVID-19-total-announced-deaths-22-May-2020.xlsx

From Office for National Statistics

It's incredible really, and then there's people too scared to leave the house and planning on home educating their dc until there's a vaccination.

@Moondust001 you cannot catch sepsis. Please look it up.

I know that’s why people need to know the risks for when they return to school and work, young people locked away when actually the risk is minimal.

I feel like shouting this from the highest mountain.
Healthy, young people are petrified beyond belief, but it feels like the real picture is being hidden. Wake up people.

Its low and not worth worrying about.

What is your point , that social distancing or any of the lockdown rules shouldn’t apply to anybody under the age of 40 ?

I feel like shouting this from the highest mountain.
Healthy, young people are petrified beyond belief, but it feels like the real picture is being hidden. Wake up people.

THIS ^^

@Alex50
It’s about 40, it was on the NHS website but they seem to have taken that bit of data off the spreadsheet for some reason? As a female you have a 50% less risk, so you half that figure.It’s about 40, it was on the NHS website but they seem to have taken that bit of data off the spreadsheet for some reason? As a female you have a 50% less risk, so you half that figure.

Hate to be pedantic, but a 50% less risk for females means about 13/14 females and 26/27 males.
And these were people with no identified health risk. There is at least some chance that they had an underlying condition that had not been identified or were not correctly recorded - dying 'with' instead of 'of'.

For all intents and purposes there is no risk at all. The country has gone mad.

@PrimeroseHillAnnie no not at all, people need to go back to school and work, the risk really needs to be put in prospective, we are going to have the next generation scared to go out the front door. There is also how are we going to pay for all this, furlough is going to be cut in August, there will be millions of redundancies, that’s far more of a risk to the under 40’s

Yep. A staggeringly low number. Yet many have been isolated for months, depressed, suicidal. Children suffering from a lack of interaction with other children, no education, no support for vulnerable children. Calls to child line are up...

I think we’ll look back and struggle to understand the action we took. The impact of this will be felt for years and years. I

I agree with pp, the shattering impact of the lockdown when the actual reality of the risk is pretty low is amazing.
My 8 year old is falling behind in education. If it takes us ten years (at least- based on financial crash) to start to recover economically that’s when he’s looking at leaving school. What jobs will be around? What shape will universities be in? People are screaming about kids not being put back in school until a vaccine is found but I think something like 4 children out of 17 million in the U.K. have died of covid. But what about all our kids when they leave school? (As above). What future are we mapping out for them? We desperately need some perspective I think!

All those small businesses that have gone under. All the stress about money worries. The increase in domestic violence..For many the ‘cure’ is worse than the disease.

It will be interesting in the future to look back at what could have been done differently.

@mac12
I didn't say you could catch sepsis. I said that most cases resulted from community transmissions - outcomes of infections transmitted in the community. Please try reading. Sepsis sets in as a result of an infection, and most of those infections are things that people get whilst out and about. A transmission as a medical term is not the same thing as "catching something ". In fact "catching" something isn't a medical term at all.

It’s funny how the young have been so compliant following the rules, when lockdown will effect them the most but you always get someone on mumsnet saying how selfish the young for even thinking about going back to normality, even after 9 weeks of lockdown.

The figures are an argument for targeting lockdown/social distancing rules in a way less damaging to the economy and young people’s well being. That’s not selfish.

But if we hadn't had lockdown, would it have all been fine? I work at a university where weeks ahead of lockdown, people were already talking about wanting to work from home and avoiding public transport, lectures were deserted, students were sending panicky emails and parents were asking why nothing was changing. If lockdown had just not happened, do you think everyone would have got on with it and got over the terror eventually? It seemed to me like quite a lot of people were already withdrawing and protecting themselves.

I’m not saying lockdown shouldn’t have happened but can’t go on much longer? Millions are going to loose their jobs.

@Moondust001 ah, I read it that you were saying sepsis was communicable disease, my mistake. I do understand sepsis is a result of infections caught in the community. Including COVID 19 www.global-sepsis-alliance.org/news/2020/4/7/update-can-covid-19-cause-sepsis-explaining-the-relationship-between-the-coronavirus-disease-and-sepsis-cvd-novel-coronavirus

Does anyone suspect that in a few months time there will be vast warehouses full of unused PPE?

@Moondust001, yes I do know that symptoms of sepsis (fast heart rate, high fever, feeling 'like I'm going to die', sometimes a rash) and lost my maternal grandma to it years ago. Of course the risk of someone under 40 dying from Covid is much lower than the risk of dying from loads of other conditions but that doesn't mean that everything should just go back to normal.

The over 40s matter, people with health conditions matter. The economy does also matter so measured cautious progress towards a new normal is okay but I'm concerned that telling under 45s that we're not at risk is just going to lead to a lot of irresponsible behaviour.

Disquieted not necessarily.. for some reason a temporary morgue is being built in a local town to me at the moment.. 16 miles from the local hospital.

Most unnerving.. either they are incredibly slow, or they're preparing for when lockdown is lifted.. I am in a tourist hot spot.

You probably need to check the ONS website. Lots of statistics on there

I don’t know anyone that’s had it let alone died of it.