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Why are the supermarket workers not getting sick?

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bulletjournalbilly · 23/05/2020 08:49

So tell me this ...if supermarkets are a "danger zone" why aren't the supermarket workers all dying and getting sick with this "killer virus"?

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Aridane · 25/05/2020 15:34

TRY THIS

poster Aridane Sat 23-May-20 20:35:41
@lljkk

Try this - there are various articles and charts in the links. Personally I found the article easier to digest

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/datasets/coronaviruscovid19relateddeathsbyoccupationenglandandwales
Add message | Report | Message poster Aridane Sat 23-May-20 20:36:45
Or try this

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19relateddeathsbyoccupationenglandandwales/latest

Jane67996 · 25/05/2020 16:54

@Lweji
UK: confirmed cases 269k, 37K deaths = 0.14% case fatality rate.
Infection fatality rate is open to interpretation because we cannot just extrapolate the CFR to the whole population as it's not s random sample. Due to the fact that all signs point to a high percentage of people being asykptomatic or having mild symptoms ( as was the case with the cruise ship, filled with mainly elderly people and about half tested positive but were asymptomatic) one could form the opinion that the Infection Fatality rate is very LOW.
I also believe current death toll is inflated due to the way they record COVID deaths.

ShootsFruitAndLeaves · 25/05/2020 17:42

You are wrong.

Count excess deaths.

Jane67996 · 25/05/2020 18:47

Shootsfruit
What am I wrong about?
The death rate can range widely from year to year.
Are you making the assumption that these " excess " deaths are all from COVID? The same argument can then be made that these excess deaths are a result of the lack of hospital care for people that need it, people that were afraid to go into hospital due to COVID and died as a result. We don't know, do we?
What we do know, is that the case fatality rate is low, and if a large percentage of the population is asymptomatic or mild, the IFR is even lower.

ShootsFruitAndLeaves · 25/05/2020 19:12

No it doesn't range widely from year to year in April. That's not how this works.

We do know because we see excess deaths in hospital , home and care homes. Not just at home

GrapefruitsAreNotTheOnlyFruit · 25/05/2020 19:32

@Jane67996 That's 14% not 0.14%.

BeltaneBride · 25/05/2020 19:35

I like shopping In Lidl because now they seem to have abandoned masks (were using in peak paranoia about 3 weeks ago) and behave like normal humans.
I as m as teacher and before lockdown no dropping like flies at all, which you would have expected given the hysteria the unions are now peddling.

Jane67996 · 25/05/2020 20:17

@GrapefruitsAreNotTheOnlyFruit
Sorry, you're correct.
Same logic applies though.. Should the figure somehow be applied to the whole population, and many are asymptomatic, fatality rate is low.
Not everyone that is recorded to have died of COVID actually died of COVID, but COVID was present.. So I believe the actual number of people that have died from COVID is much lower than 37K

Haplap · 25/05/2020 21:07

Give it a few weeks now all public confidence has been destroyed. The government have just scrapped lockdown through their disgusting hypocrisy. Here's comes the tsunami.

pollymere · 26/05/2020 12:26

@BruceWilllis Yes, you can... ONS has published the data by occupation. The number of education professionals who have died is horribly high considering schools are closed.

BruceWilllis · 26/05/2020 20:02

I'm sorry Polly but the ONS doesn't know every single person in the UK that has had or has got the virus. No one does. It is impossible to know this without testing every single person in the uk multiple times. Therefore the may well be thousands of retail workers infected with the virus. I could be infected right now and be completely asymptomatic, I wouldn't be a statistic.

ShootsFruitAndLeaves · 26/05/2020 20:33

Yes, you can... ONS has published the data by occupation. The number of education professionals who have died is horribly high considering schools are closed.

Schools closed when infection rates were already very high.

And no, it's not true that educational professionals have a high death rate per the ONS stats

MRex · 26/05/2020 20:50

@Jane67996 - it's interesting that you think deaths from covid are lower because there have been ~60,000 excess deaths. So what do you think those people have died of instead?

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