Stop scaremongering about schools. All dc will be back before 2021.

[whenthejoyreturns]

There’s no way they’re going to implement home learning for another year. It’s completely unsustainable, the economy will collapse, they’ll be horrific consequences for millions of dc. At some point soon sense will prevail and we’ll all have to start living with the risks of coronavirus.

I feel exactly the same way. He is so ready for school though. Our nursery aren't opening in June though because the council's thrown their weight around and they're funded by the council. Hopefully soon though.... DS is an only (he's got an older half sibling but he's been isolating with his mum) and he's struggling on his own now.

Divebar

You are confusing schooled education with H.education, the both are entirely different. Plenty of parents both work and manage to home educate their children very well. Some work ft, some pt, some have a sahp, there are lots of combinations. A couple of hours a day is usually enough to cover what they'd do in a full day at school
HTH.

Yup same here @2007Millie. I work in an fe college and we're planning for blended learning until... who knows.

People on mumsnet don't like to hear it and you get accused of being a demented fear mongerer or some such. But the reality is there is a very good chance your child will have some blended learning come September.

You can blame unions, lazy teachers, hysterical women unable to evaluate risk, or whoever all you like. But the reality is until we decide that people no longer need to practice social distancing in the workplace schools will not go back to normal.

Had our government acted quickly and wisely we would be like Taiwan now. But here we are. So you'd all rather blame the unions and the teachers. Maybe next time be a bit more careful who you vote for

Plenty of parents both work and manage to home educate their children very well. Some work ft, some pt, some have a sahp, there are lots of combinations. A couple of hours a day is usually enough to cover what they'd do in a full day at school

That is bollocks if ever I heard it.

Where are their kids when they're both working ft?

I got an email from my daughter secondary school today, she’s in year 7. It stated years 7-9 in their school will not be returning until September.
Primary school for my other daughter have sent an email saying plans will be emailed on Tuesday.

Maybe next time be a bit more careful who you vote for

Nor sure who that's aimed at as I've never voted conservative in my life. At least they're trying to get kids back to school and Boris hasn't mentioned pt school at all.

In fact the guidance says even in June it shouldn't be on a rota...

@2007Millie please do tell us what inside information you have? As the government was pretty adamant that schools for years R, 1 and 6 would resume on 1 June and other years to follow at staggered dates, until the Unions started kicking off, I’d guess it’s jack shit.

Boris has utterly fucked us with his initial approach to the virus. That's why we're here now having this conversation.

Glad you never voted conservative

I don’t want to be a teacher. If I had wanted to spend my days teaching I would have trained to be a teacher.

Good to know I can knock out a whole days school work in a few hours. Guess my 4 year old will be just grand to crack on with that whilst I’m at work.

I always thought they'd be back by Sept 20.
I can't see how they can't be.

Schools don't know any more than the rest of us do though at the moment. It's good to plan for a possible phased return in September but it doesn't mean that it will definitely happen that way.

This was posted on another thread about Scottish schools - children only to attend school for a 1/3 of the time until widespread vaccination occurs.

www.thenational.scot/news/18463909.union-boss-says-scottish-schools-will-part-time-vaccine/

Absolutely ridiculous without huge consideration for all the other issues. Most teachers with children won't be able to work enough for a start!

Devlesko

How patronising of you. I actually used the word “ all” - as in “ not all parents” which is different to “some” or “plenty” I’m sure some parents manage it very well. I didn’t and I’m reasonably well educated and an experienced “ trainer” although not a teacher. It was fine initially and then deteriorated the longer we went on until the atmosphere was horrible and our relationship was in danger of being damaged. ( and that was revision of subjects previously taught not new material). I don’t have the language to teach maths for example - it isn’t taught the same way now even if I could remember my school maths. I’m not ashamed of that I was defeated by home schooling and simultaneously working from home.

Schools don't know any more than the rest of us do though at the moment. It's good to plan for a possible phased return in September but it doesn't mean that it will definitely happen that

Agreed. Maybe we'll be lucky and things will be massively improved come September 🤞 we don't know

@NeverTwerkNaked
Our current plan, up until January at least, is a rota of some sort like we currently have in place. I'm not sure about online as my school isn't a traditional school (SEMH etc) so we don't deliver lessons in the normal way

@TrustTheGeneGenie
Then of course, I will be going back in full time if that is what is asked when it is asked. But currently, that isn't. Although I'm obviously fully aware things could change at any minute.

@GalesThisMorning
Exactly. I imagine you're like me a bloody fed up and wanting to get back to normal, but re plans my school have don't suggest that happening any time soon. Plans that are, as you know, well out of my control as a 'generic' teacher

@Worriedaboutthefuture1
Unfortunately none! I'm just saying what the plan is in my school. It does not have any Year 1 or 6 pupils so those introduction of children don't apply

Divebar

As I said you don't know the difference, that is fine.
Home schooling work you have been given that needs to be taught in a certain way for a certain system, usually by teachers, is poles away from experiences of Home education. The two aren't comparable.

How exactly do two full time working parents homeschool? Where are their kids while they're working?

Yes I’m wondering this, too.

I really hope they will be back by September at the latest. Hearing about them going back doing reduced hours or half the week is really worrying. I have a really good job, school hours and don't know what I will do.

*There will be an absolute storm if schools don't go back in September. I think they'll just have to go back (and forget social distancing) and any teachers not happy will need to leave (as other employees are doing who aren't happy returning to work) and parents who are not comfortable will need to home school
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Completely agree with this

There will be an absolute storm if schools don't go back in September. I think they'll just have to go back (and forget social distancing) and any teachers not happy will need to leave (as other employees are doing who aren't happy returning to work) and parents who are not comfortable will need to home school

Would it not be discriminatory to say that all employees have to social distance in their work place, or wear PPE, unless you're a teacher in which case you should do neither?

No because not all employees can social distance now. Some industries can, some can’t. Some can wfh some can’t. Those that can, should, as it will reduce the risk to everyone.

To run an argument for discrimination in an employment law sense the discrimination has to be based on a protected characteristic.

I wonder this. I don’t know what’s meant to be different come September and the advent of flu season.

But living life like this isn’t sustainable, kids need education and interaction. And workers need the childcare to get those taxes in.

13 children died last last year from flu
3 from chicken pox

That's more than corona virus

I agree schools need to go back.