Truly shocking stats from the Office of National Statistics (ONS).

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Have a look at this graph, published recently by the ONS - an official government body would no incentive to lie

*with no incentive to lie 😳

What are you shocked by, exactly?

Whats an elementary security operation?

What is shocking?

I think the graph illustrates that senior management less likely than lower status workers to die? Covid related ofc.

This should be interesting but I too am baffled by some of the job titles!

I am particularly confused as to why the - completely closed - hospitality and leisure industry should have such a marked increase in deaths?!!

I think the graph illustrates that senior management less likely than lower status workers to die? Covid related ofc.

Seems to be the case but could easily be explained by the larger proportion of people who are lower-status 'front line' workers vs senior management. "Deaths per 100,000" isn't quite clear whether it means 'Deaths per 100,000 senior managers vs 100,000 supermarket workers' or 'Deaths per 100,000 general population' but probably the latter.

Come on, OP. Tell us what you think you have discovered.

There are less people at the top of a chain source bound to be fewer deaths. Most deaths are related to those where contact with contaminated items is unavoidable and ppe isn't maybe supplied?

So not source

I wonder why this only shows male deaths. Why not female too?

Well it's not surprising that IT professionals fare so well. Many can easily work from home, or were already working from home before the virus hit. And a lot of agricultural trades will be working out of doors, which is another low risk for catching the virus.

I think it shows everyone should wear masks as we could reduce all to hcp rate.

Construction must be highly men.
And they worked through.
Other occupations maybe werent allowed to wfh.
So maybe its linked to london PT

This should be interesting but I too am baffled by some of the job titles!

Glad it's not just me

A guardian article explaining it a little more.

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/11/manual-workers-likelier-to-die-from-covid-19-than-professionals

I am particularly confused as to why the - completely closed - hospitality and leisure industry should have such a marked increase in deaths?!!

That implies some deaths may be related to lifestyle rather than working conditions.

The shocking ones are welfare professionals and caring personal services.

Maybe some of the job categories are a bit baffling, but I’m sure you get the gist. I guess I find it shocking as it lays bare the reality of the situation. The link that @TheGreatWave has posted above probably explains it more clearly.

There are less people at the top of a chain source bound to be fewer deaths

The chart shows deaths per 100,000 so it's irrelevant how many there are. It's about the proportion who have died, not the number.

I'm shocked that Health Professionals are not higher up.

It's not adjusted for other factors (other than age?) though is it?
It would be interesting to see the corresponding chart for normal non-COVID deaths too for comparison. It may or may not show the same shape.

I'm shocked that Health Professionals are not higher up.

Why? As a group they should understand hygiene etc well - and most of them aren't actively working with CV patients are they?

This ignores that 70% of health care professionals are women,I expect similar is true of teachers and some other jobs on here so a bit scewed really.Is there a reason it's only men or have women evaporated during the pandemic.
Also how many deaths are due to their occupation directly?

This is weird. In the news they said NHS staff are affected at a rate 7X that of the general population.

Also ewww to the food prep trade being one of the highest. No wonder they will be the last allowed to return.

This is weird. In the news they said NHS staff are affected at a rate 7X that of the general population.

'Affected' isn't the same thing as 'death rate'.
Also, are all NHS staff 'healthcare professionals' in ONS parlance - or are some in the 'caring personal services' or some other categories?

@Namechangervaver why ewww at food prep? Meat packing factories are a hotspot for transmitting as people work v closely together in a non ventilated space/air conditioned.

I saw on another article workers in these places are at high risk which makes sense