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Why is everyone rushing back to work this morning?

260 replies

Nb89 · 11/05/2020 07:56

It's being reported London buses are rammed when they've been relatively quiet until now.
Why have people rushed back yo work today regardless of the guidelines?

OP posts:
blueheaven97 · 11/05/2020 10:17

@blueheaven97 they act accordingly. They travel at less busy times, wait for the next train, cycle. People can't just ignore the rules because they need to go to work. What do you think everyone else has been doing this whole time?

@Pinkyyy Not everyone has flexible working hours and can just choose when they travel to and from work. The busy times are busy times or a reason.

What I think everyone else has been doing this whole time is staying home.

Pinkyyy · 11/05/2020 10:17

I wonder if they plan to make all parking free then

That's a very good point, sadly I doubt it though.

AnotherMurkyDay · 11/05/2020 10:17

@Charlieiscool

Definitely lost tube workers, considering this is over a month old

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2020/04/08/14-tfl-workers-now-died-coronavirus-12525404/amp/

blueheaven97 · 11/05/2020 10:17

(That should say 'for a reason').

BarbaraofSeville · 11/05/2020 10:18

can someone post a link to the transcript where he said tomorrow^

He said 'I will be setting out more details in Parliament tomorrow and taking questions from the public in the evening'

www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-address-to-the-nation-on-coronavirus-10-may-2020

But it was kind of buried in the middle and could have been given more emphasis and detail - especially about this 50 page document, which will hopefully answer a lot of questions, about seeing family, childcare, transport, services like dentistry, hairdressing etc, whether outdoor destinations like National Trust sites can open, that sort of thing.

Pinkyyy · 11/05/2020 10:19

@blueheaven97 so obviously those people will have to continue to stay home. The instruction was to only go to work if you can social distance. Of people ignore it we will be straight back into lockdown. No individuals need to work comes above the whole country beating this virus.

17million · 11/05/2020 10:21

just to clarify for the hard of thinking who take notice of anything the BBC says
Both “should” and “must” are similar in meaning except that “must” is a much stronger word as compared to “should.” “Should” is the past tense of “shall.” “Should” is used to denote recommendations, advice, or to talk about what is generally right or wrong within the permissible limits of society.

JudyCoolibar · 11/05/2020 10:23

People know the rules on social distancing and should be following them, whilst going to work.

How does that work, @Pinkyyy, when your employer is telling you to be at work by 9, the only way to get to work is by public transport and the buses and trains are all packed?

stretchedmarks · 11/05/2020 10:23

Can I ask a question? Why are so many people absolutely outraged about having to return to work weeks after lockdown was initiated?

You didn't seriously think you'd be furloughed until a vaccine, did you?
Your company has had months to put measures in place to open as safely as possible. If they haven't done this, then that's just shoddy management.

Can we also spare a thought for those who have had to go to work, through the peak, with minimal to zero PPE. Not everyone had the luxury of sitting at home getting paid a solid wack of their wage.

I feel for those who have already been risking their lives. Those who got a shit deal because they're self employed. Those desperate to get back to work to save their industries. Those struggling with childcare.

I have no sympathy for those crying about having to go back to work like the rest of us have been. I certainly don't have any sympathy for those who have spent the last two months bitching about shop workers, delivery drivers, NHS workers, etc. Maybe once you see yourself how hard it is to work and socially distance, you'll finally get a fucking reality check.

Velvian · 11/05/2020 10:23

I notice the "of course it was Wednesday" ers are only coming out with this since Dominic Raab made a tit of himself on the Today programme. I certainly got the impression it was work today for some, as did a lot of employers, evidently.

Not helped by the whole, "I will address the nation on Sunday, as some changes will take place on Monday."

multivac · 11/05/2020 10:24

Sorry, pinkyyy I'm confused now - at first you were saying that essentially, the country is full of idle layabouts who 'want to stay at home and be paid 80% for doing nothing'; then you claimed that in fact, we're overrun by selfish people who insist on getting on crowded buses when they could perfectly easily stay at home; then you reckoned that everyone has a choice about whether to work or not... and now you're angry about people "ignoring" instructions, going to work and putting us all back into lockdown...

Are you, in fact, the PM?

BarbaraofSeville · 11/05/2020 10:24

There needs to be a combination of actions that will hopefully make travel to work manageable.

Everyone who can WFH to continue to do so. So no-one should be going to offices if they have successfully worked at home for the last 7 weeks.

Staggered starts - if you can run 6-2, 7-3 or even 10-6 instead of 9-5, do this - many factories with 24 hour working already do this.

People who can walk/cycle to do so, especially if you would otherwise use public transport that is likely to become crowded, or take up a parking space that is likely to be in short supply. If you live 2 miles from work, you don't need that space on public transport or in the car park as much as the person who lives 5/10 miles away, providing you are capable of walking that distance of course.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 11/05/2020 10:25

Oh do give over @Barbara.

Sod you and your common sense.

PhilCornwall1 · 11/05/2020 10:26

No individuals need to work comes above the whole country beating this virus.

It does if they can't put food on the table.

Concerned7777 · 11/05/2020 10:26

It is not and never has been down to an employer to be liable for how people travel to work or child care provisions. They have to make your work environment safe nothing else. Everyone has the same problems unfortunately which I agree theres no ideal solution for.
We can not continue to furlough long term yes the government is paying 80% wages but companies have more than wages to pay out each month if no one is working the business will fold and people will lose their jobs.
None of us work for the love of it we work to put a roof over our head and food on the table.

CorianderLord · 11/05/2020 10:27

No he said very clearly last night 'from tomorrow' aka Monday

PrimeroseHillAnnie · 11/05/2020 10:28

The very real prospect of unemployment and you don't need to be told to wear a mask. Use your own intelligence.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 11/05/2020 10:28

Yes.... From today we should be encouraged to return to work, safely....

Not as of today we should call return to work!

The80sweregreat · 11/05/2020 10:28

My friends work place ( garden centre that sells pet food) has been open since last week. Scant regard for staff safety apparently : (
The shoppers are flocking in , all ages.
Good for the owners but not for anyone else by the sounds of it.
I know the economy needs to move on etc but keeping staff safe should be a priority too. :(

Pinkyyy · 11/05/2020 10:28

You didn't seriously think you'd be furloughed until a vaccine, did you?

I think they very much did.

howells · 11/05/2020 10:29

It seems to me that a lot of people were happy to break the ‘rules’ whilst partying on Friday but they are less keen to go to work!

The guidance was always that people who couldn’t wfh should continue to go to work if possible (obviously it could depend on childcare availability but the furlough scheme allows for furloughing for lack of childcare reasons). So those employers should already have had measures in place to allow for social distancing. If they don’t then they need to sort it out before employees return. I thought it was clear. I’m not a BJ fan at all BTW.

Public transport is a difficult one. Perhaps they should be handing out masks like in some other countries.

returnofthemollymawks · 11/05/2020 10:30

Lots are by the sound of things - I live not far from a motorway and the traffic noise has been non stop all morning. I wonder how much of it is people going out for a jolly now that they think lockdown is over even though it's not.

JudyCoolibar · 11/05/2020 10:30

they act accordingly. They travel at less busy times, wait for the next train, cycle. People can't just ignore the rules because they need to go to work.

So, think about this. You work on a production line which needs a minimum number of people to be in to make it operate. You can only get to work by public transport. Your employer tells you you must be in at 9, otherwise the production line can't work, and you will be sacked. Public transport is full.

@Pinkyyy, how does that make it your fault if you fail to distance socially on public transport? Contrary to your comfortable belief that this is a London-centric problem, no, it's a problem all over the country.

CorianderLord · 11/05/2020 10:30

@gawdsake people don't use taxis to get to work in C London because they've just been on 80% wage for 7 weeks and often it would cost them £40 a day just to get to work. You sound like Marie Antoinette 'let them eat cake'

JudyCoolibar · 11/05/2020 10:31

How can news from yesterday evening have been implemented by employers by this morning?

Not sure if you knew, but there are things called telephones, texts and emails.