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How is Year 2 not important?!?

106 replies

ChippityDoDa · 10/05/2020 20:02

How the hell is Year 2 less important than year 1 or foundation? Massive transition to do to KS2, usually in a different building etc. They’ve already missed so much valuable education time plus socialisation is really key at this age. Devastated for all the 6/7 year olds. I’m putting in a complaint to DfE tomorrow and I encourage all other year 2 parents to do the same.

OP posts:
Lumene · 10/05/2020 20:05

Will be weird for siblings in upper years with younger ones in reception and y1.

Don’t think you will get far with your complaint though, schools can’t do everything at once.

Mumof1andacat · 10/05/2020 20:07

I'm with you. I personally dont see the point in yr 6 children going back. Their primary education is done so start a fresh in September. I remember the last half term when I was in yr 6. We played games, had leaving assembly's, helped at sports day and had picnic on the field followed by rounders.

DahliaDay · 10/05/2020 20:08

Fgs why are you complaining. It’s temporary!

There will be reasons behind it but they do not need to share every single detail behind decision making

Barbie222 · 10/05/2020 20:10

I'm sure year 2 will follow if the r rate stays low.

Crunchymum · 10/05/2020 20:10

I have a reception and a y2. My y2 would benefit from going back so much more than my reception aged child.

But it is what it is.

We also have a shielding toddler (precautionary / has a condition but none of the comorbidities that would put her at risk). I won't be sending reception aged child back.

oxydrive73 · 10/05/2020 20:10

My son is year 6, and I will be delighted for him to go back and finish his primary days when I thought they had ended so abruptly, I do think they need to "leave" and do some transition. I am surprised the gov picked them though.

DewDropsonKittens · 10/05/2020 20:11

Oh stop.. a complaint? To achieve what exactly?

silverdollarcity · 10/05/2020 20:12

My DD is at an infant school, so for her, Y2 is a transition year.

I don't actually want her to go back any time soon, but I do feel like the Y2 kids, especially those in 3-tier systems, have been forgotten. Going up to a junior school is a really big deal for her and I'm sure it's the same for many others too. It's not that I want her to go back, but I don't have confidence that the transition aspect has been or will be thought about.

Girlymom2 · 10/05/2020 20:12

Jeez there’s always one....... as if there isn’t enough going on without them having to deal with complaints. It’s all phased ffs

Waxonwaxoff0 · 10/05/2020 20:19

I understand how you feel OP, I have a Year 2 but they have to start somewhere. Every year group will have a reason for needing to go back. Hopefully Year 2 will be the next group to go back if the phased return is successful.

PepperMooMoo · 10/05/2020 20:22

Oh OP, god yeah!! They've made a A TERRIBLE mistake haven't they? They've forgotten in all this, your child was the most important one!! Definitely make a complaint, it's a joke! Of course it should be Year 2, of course!

ChippityDoDa · 10/05/2020 20:29

It’s not just about my child, it’s about thousands of year 2 children all transitioning to KS2.

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Girlymom2 · 10/05/2020 20:37

They will have their reasons behind why they have chosen the years they have chosen.
I wonder if you would still be complaining if your child was in year 1..... Would you still be outraged for the thousands of year 2 pupils?
Every year is important for their own reasons, your child’s education isn’t anymore important than any other child/year!! Grow up.

DahliaDay · 10/05/2020 20:42

They can transition to year flipping 2 a bit later then Op..... it won’t matter!!!

catsandlavender · 10/05/2020 20:49

Good luck complaining to the DfE. I empathise, but you can make this argument for just about every primary year group.
I posted on another thread about why EYFS and y1 would be the years I would send back first, before this was announced. The transition from EYFS to y1 is also huge and they are much less “used” to school at that age than year 2. They would have missed all their y1 transition from play based to formal education. At least in y2-y3 they have the same amount of “lesson” time roughly, in reception schools closed right when they’re still playing for 70% of the day in many schools, and in y1 they’re expected to sit and all learn/write/do maths at once far, far more.

Also, I imagine partially it’s because it’s easier maybe to wfh with. 6/7 year old than a 4/5 year old.. although probably only marginally.

Drivingdownthe101 · 10/05/2020 20:51

It’s a phased return. Year 2 will be going back a couple of weeks after year 1 and R. It doesn’t mean they won’t go back before the summer at all.

Yellowsubmarinedreams · 10/05/2020 20:53

Because the government have decided they are not important enough right now. Sorry.

MsJaneAusten · 10/05/2020 20:53

I presume you have a child in Year 2 OP? Hmm

Why not Year 3?
Why not Year 4?
Why not Year 5? Or 7, or 8, or 9?

We could argue for or against any year group. They’re all important.

VenusTiger · 10/05/2020 20:54

Says in news that all of Primary will be phased in to return 'starting' with Rec, Yr1 and Yr6 - wait and see what the press conf. confirms tomorrow - don't go shooting your mouth off just yet - my son is also Yr2 and an only child.

RigaBalsam · 10/05/2020 20:56

Honestly you should be ashamed they are trying aren't they.

For my y7 it looks like September so think on that.

cantkeepawayforever · 10/05/2020 20:56

As I posted on another thread:

The selection of years will also be to gather data and to experiment with 'what works'.

Year 6 do not have an enormous amount of 'formal curriculum' left to cover, so time can be spent working out how to transition children of that sort of age back into schools, work on counselling & support, work out the routines, processes etc that could be used for the whole school without the constant 'but we also need to cover x.y. and z' that would be the case for other years. Because they are the oldest children in the school, they can be models / mentors for other years to show the new expectations and procedures if / when they return. And statistically, data from how much they increase R can be applied with some confidence to e.g. Y5 and Y4.

Yr and Y1 are the most difficult to educate from home, and are absolutely the worst case for social distancing - so again, if having them in school can be done without an epidemic amongst staff or a huge rise in R, then it's a reasonable bet that other year groups will be less risk.

So there is definitely an element, it seems to me, of choosing 'guinea pig' years to inform statisticians of the likely effect of returning other year groups."

So if this works, they yes, Y2 will go back. If it doesn't, you might be very glad that Y2 wasn't in the initial wave...

PepperMooMoo · 10/05/2020 20:56

How is that any different to Year 6? Or Year 10? Give over OP...

UndertheCedartree · 10/05/2020 20:57

I'm glad Y6 will get some time at school before September. But I was suprised about R and Y1 because of difficulties with social distancing with little ones. I would have thought if Infants were going back Y2 would be first due to their transition to Juniors. But obviously at this stage we don't know how quickly other years will be phased in. If schools start to open for more DC after half term it is possible that within a couple of weeks Y2 could go back. But we have so little information. We don't know what SD rules will be in place or how many DC can be in the classroom at one time. But at least things are moving.

Floatyboat · 10/05/2020 20:57

Erm do you not think as your child's mother it's your job to be helping with all that. Stop expecting teachers to look after your own child and teach that from home.

VenusTiger · 10/05/2020 20:59

@PepperMooMoo Yr6 are going back with rec and Yr1 - then all other primary yrs phased in if it's successful

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