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How is Year 2 not important?!?

106 replies

ChippityDoDa · 10/05/2020 20:02

How the hell is Year 2 less important than year 1 or foundation? Massive transition to do to KS2, usually in a different building etc. They’ve already missed so much valuable education time plus socialisation is really key at this age. Devastated for all the 6/7 year olds. I’m putting in a complaint to DfE tomorrow and I encourage all other year 2 parents to do the same.

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SallyLovesCheese · 10/05/2020 23:55

Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady First schools take ages 5-9 and middle schools from age 8/9 and then they go to upper school at around 13. It's nothing to do with key stages.

SallyLovesCheese · 10/05/2020 23:56

It's a different school system that some LAs use.

PowerStruggle · 11/05/2020 00:01

I would guess they have picked those year groups because the older kids will be able to follow the rules on social distancing etc and the younger ones so they can get them trained up before the school is flooded with all the other kids.

Just give things a chance, none of this is ideal but you complaining is hardly going to help is it. You need to think a bit more before going off the deep end. Be a grown up.

VenusTiger · 11/05/2020 00:11

Will people saying "we have the highest death rate in europe" please understand population density - if you have more people (by several millions) then the virus can spread to more people!!!

Germany for instance are not recording deaths as covid-related (or as cause of death) if test are negative, whereas we are certifying deaths as covid-related or cause of death without testing for certain!!

www.express.co.uk/news/world/1278818/coronavirus-deaths-per-capita-which-countries-have-most-coronavirus-cases-deaths-per-capit

How is Year 2 not important?!?
How is Year 2 not important?!?
ZombieFan · 11/05/2020 00:18

me me me me

VenusTiger · 11/05/2020 00:23

@catsandlavender
I’m sure I’ll get flamed but.. it’s not my job to “look after” your child. It’s my job to teach them. I didn’t pay £9k to learn how to babysit. While I love the kids I teach and care for them massively it’s not my “actual job” to look after them. Sorry.

I'll NEVER understand this kind of BS from ANY teacher - if you don't mean it how it sounds, then change it @cats because this sounds bloody awful! I hope you're not my son's teacher, because it IS your job to look after my child whilst he is in YOUR care - to teach him, to listen to him, to ensure of his safety, to ensure he is happy (mental health) DURING HIS TIME IN YOUR CLASSROOM - teaching is also involved and is the main purpose of your job, but it is NOT the sole purpose.

IdblowJonSnow · 11/05/2020 00:28

Of course every single year and child are all important! But if govt and schools want much smaller class sizes then they have to do it this way. Would you rather none went back at all?

SunshineCake · 11/05/2020 06:56

I have only read the OP but it is so not about year 2 not being important!!

Year six is an obvious choice as they deserve there end of term, leaving school celebrations as much as possible.

Reception and year one are the next obvious as they are so little and still so new to school they need the quietness of a smaller school and will need more help to settle back in.

I am at the other end as my children are years 10 and 12 and first year of university.

My year ten would rather work from home all the time as feels more productive. My year 12 is keen to get back to school as she's only been there since September and loves it but is saying she is wearing a mask and gloves. My university child is having mixed feelings as he loves being back at home but it annoyed to not be having any live lectures and still being charged full whack for things. He will get refunds though, as in he will pitch for them as he has form for getting things done when unfair practices are happening.

SunshineCake · 11/05/2020 07:12

Ffs as they deserve their...

geojojo · 11/05/2020 07:15

All years will be going back soon, it's not a case of which is more important. My best friend works in education policy and says R and 1 going back is purely economic so the parents of these can more easily work, year 6 for transition. Year 2 will no doubt be next.

Bossycat · 11/05/2020 07:23

YR and Y1 tend to spend more time outside than other years so it will be easier to spread them out. Bringing in Y2 would mean a lot of children in the same part of the school in many schools so it makes to bring them back later.

thirtywon · 11/05/2020 07:25

I'm a year 2 teacher with a child in y1 and y5. My kids are no way going in and when I'm called back, well I'm terrified.

Chanel05 · 11/05/2020 07:34

They can't all be in at once - that would be a free for all. Like it or not, when children are in school they will no or socially distance because they can't. They are small children who have 0 concept of Covid, let alone what 2m distancing looks like at all times of the day. That's before even being let into the classroom when they're allowed to chat and play with friends at the gate and then be told to stay apart for the next 6 hours. Not realistic. All being well, I'd imagine Year 2 and Year 5 would be next, followed by Year 3 and Year 4 last.

NiknicK · 11/05/2020 07:39

This is just my opinion of course but I don’t think year 2 is any more important than those children in reception or year 1. These children have an another 4-6 years left of their primary education to catch up on what they have missed. Year 10 and 12 children however have one year left at school/college//sixth form. They have important exams next year that could play an important part in determining their future. They are the ones who should be a priority right now. Oh and don’t even get me started on year 6 going back as that’s ridiculous. Sats have been cancelled, there will be no transition days to secondary schools as they aren’t reopening anytime soon. So what exactly are they going back to school for?

Bluntness100 · 11/05/2020 07:42

Op it’s a phased approach.

So start with year one and reception and year six, then a week or two later more years start, until by the end of June latest, all primary and primary childcare is back.

It’s not just these years till September.

Goldenmother · 11/05/2020 07:48

KS2 doesn't start till children are in year 3, I think the years that have not been mention it's believed they can catch up on what they've missed one school is retuned, secondary school will be year 10 and 12 if the school has a sixth form due to GCSE and A levels next year.

2004pickle · 11/05/2020 07:50

I have a dc in year 2 and I’m pretty sure they’ll manage - it’s still very young and academically they won’t miss much that they can’t catch up with. My Oldest dc is in year 9 and is due to sit 2 GCSEs early next year so I’d much rather he went back in earlier than younger ones.

FergusComeLately · 11/05/2020 07:58

Primary teacher here - all years are important but OP save your devastation for families who are grieving for those lost from Covid19. What a ridiculously dramatic post. The return is phased and I would agree with the decision that Reception and Year 1 are more important, they are learning the building blocks of all future learning.

Yr 6, I suspect, is so they have time to squeeze in all the extra stuff that gets lumped to the side during SATS, the PSHE, helping the children with skills for secondary as well as keeping their current academic skills at a level that going to secondary in September isn’t even more of a shock than it already will be.

Yr2 to Yr3 isn’t the massive step you seem to think it is. The step from YrR to 1 and 1 to 2 are arguably bigger.

Save your complaining, they have better, much more important things to deal with, it’s a phased return after all.

randomsabreuse · 11/05/2020 08:19

Cynically, YR and Y1 being back at school give the biggest improvement in worker availability assuming working from home. Y2 upwards will mostly be distractible with enough screen time or throwing money at the problem with Lego etc so parents can get some work done.

Less cynically YR age spending 6 months at home seeing no one but parents will make some fun drop offs when school does restart - most of DC's class had just about got the hang of going in apart from occasional bad days when we broke up... Separation anxiety will be a problem.

Also less cynically, possibly, very difficult to remote teach children who can't yet read the question effectively... making an available parent very much more important, and widening the already large gap between haves and have nots at this age.

greathat · 11/05/2020 08:30

Well I'm very happy my year 2 child isn't going back to share germs with 200 other kids. I don't want my kid being in the experiment thanks

alwaysscared · 11/05/2020 08:39

Our school has reception, year 1 and year 2 together. So I'm glad my year 2 child isn't going back at the same time. It's a small Victorian school with small classrooms and small corridors, social distancing will be non existent.

CallmeAngelina · 11/05/2020 08:55

Bluntness, I have seen you spreading made-up stuff all over the place recently and it's very damaging. At no point has it been said that other year groups will start back at school within a week or two with everyone being back by the end of June. You have just made that up. It can't and won't happen.
Please stop.

TabbyMumz · 11/05/2020 09:06

"Devastated for all the 6/7 year olds"

Oh God, you're one of those arent you?! I can assure you 6/7 year olds wont be devastated themselves, they will be quite pleased to not be going to school in covid times. Are you going to be one of those parents who is devastated about every little thing?

catsandlavender · 11/05/2020 09:26

Venus well then you clearly missed the part where I said I massively love and care for the children I teach. Teachers have a million different roles and pastoral care is a HUGE one. We’re probably just arguing semantics but I get sick and tired of hearing people like OP say “ugh teachers just need to DO THEIR JOB and look after my child so I can go to work” like.. that’s childcare not teaching, it’s a different job, we’re not only here to ensure parents can go to work.

Tiramisuiloveyou · 11/05/2020 09:30

FFS OP what about the year 10 who will be sitting GCSE’s next year and year 12’s who will be sitting A Levels stuck in a house with their parents who aren’t the centre of their universe.
Oh hang on what about year 6 who are about to make the important transition to secondary school and want to celebrate with their little friends.
Hang on what about year xxxx get the picture and get a grip.