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Why only primary school going back?

339 replies

Mummypig2020 · 10/05/2020 19:13

Just that really, why do they only want to get primary school back?

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Grasspigeons · 10/05/2020 21:21

In an infant schools theres not that many other classrooms/teachers. Especially if one classroom and teacher is for key worker y2s.
Lets see what the advice is tomorrow. It might be business as normal.

diazapamdependent · 10/05/2020 21:22

My year 6 child really needs this time, assuming it happens, to finish off her primary years.

Socially she's struggled to stay connected and I know not seeing anyone until September (even with a day or two in July) would make social side of things really tricky at the start of senior school. She's not naturally extroverted or social.

I also have a year 2 child who is without doubt the challenging one to have at home but that's how it is. I'd rather my year 6 child got the end to primary school she needs than a reduction in my (significant) challenges as a single parent wfh full time, with long term MH issues.

Saoirse7 · 10/05/2020 21:24

I'm not sure how that can work though SmellBellina, how are the other teachers supposed to continue to teach and organise their own class?

Also curious as to what will happen for those who chose not to send their kids to school, teachers can't be expected to plan for physical and remote teaching.

Think it has left more questions than answers.

PickUpAPickUpAPenguin · 10/05/2020 21:25

Really shocked that y10 and y12 aren't the priority.

Considering that y6 won't be able to visit their secondary school I would have thought y5 in June and y6 in July for leavers related stuff.

Smellbellina · 10/05/2020 21:26

I expect the YR/1/6 teachers will continue to plan for their own children and other teachers will deliver those lessons. Which frees up planning time for your own year group.

Smellbellina · 10/05/2020 21:28

If parents choose not to send their children they will need to take some responsibility for providing their own homeschooling, teachers could share objectives/resources for that week but the onus on providing an education will shift slightly as they are providing it, in school.

cantkeepawayforever · 10/05/2020 21:28

Y10 and Y12 bring issues around public transport to school, though - much more common to commute to school for those age groups, and reducing numbers on public transport definitely seemed to be a theme this evening.

Rarer for R/Y1, or even Y6, to commute far on public transport to school.

PickUpAPickUpAPenguin · 10/05/2020 21:31

Can someone please enlighten me as to how Y6 pupils will be experiencing'transition' when the secondary schools are still closed?

Mine had PSHE lessons where they discussed common worries about starting secondary like what to do if you get lost? What to do if homework is too hard?

As they can't visit their new school, they might have to make do with seeing photos like what a science lab looks like. These are the doors that you enter in the morning sort of thing. They might have some photos of the uniform and the Head teacher/year leader so there's a familiar face in September.

Our secondary has only y7 and y12 on the first day and the other years on day 2. They may just do transition day on the first day of term.

wintertime6 · 10/05/2020 21:34

I think they're doing this as a bit of an experiment, send some kids back for a few weeks before the summer break and monitor the infection rates. It gives them some data to help them decide if kids going back to school has an effect on infection rates and then they can decide what will happen in September.

The other option is leaving it until september and then sending a lot more kids back at the same time, which would have unknown consequences.

MossWalk · 10/05/2020 21:37

Rarer for R/Y1, or even Y6, to commute far on public transport to school.

But at the same time, all R/Y1 children must be dismissed to an adult. By bringing back in R/Y1, you're setting up a mass gathering of adults plus siblings who can't be left at home.

Showchin2 · 10/05/2020 21:37

Well, they are welcome to play chess with the r0 with other people's children but my y1 and y6 will not be going in June*
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Well said @FourTeaFallOut

cantkeepawayforever · 10/05/2020 21:40

Yes, so they are being used as guinea pigs for 'worst case scenario' for increase in R for schools in isolation.

Y10/Y12 bring risks across two different sectors, which makes it harder to analyse the risks and step back if it doesn't work - and also potentially interfere with the desire for people to go back to work needing space on socially distanced public transport.

WinWinnieTheWay · 10/05/2020 22:06

Child care, teenagers are more competent at independent study.

saraclara · 10/05/2020 22:17

Many year six children will be going to different secondary schools from their friends. They need some closure on their primary school years, as there's enough that's messing with their mental health right now. So let them have their last few weeks.
Also theirs no reason why they shouldn't visit their new schools and her to know their way around them. Present pupils won't be there, but the teachers can be. In some ways it might be even better as the staff will have more time and space to give them.

It's odd that usually parents are panicking about how their kids will cope with transitioning to secondary school, but now they're saying they shouldn't be prepared for it?
Yay six is obviously the most important year group to get back in, to anyone who knows anything about education.

Quartz2208 · 10/05/2020 22:17

I think its because 5 times as many 10-19 ended up in hospital

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/883790/COVID19_Weekly_Report_6_May.pdf

So Primary school makes sense to start with

saraclara · 10/05/2020 22:17

Yay= year, obv!

excitedmumtobe87 · 10/05/2020 22:27

I won’t be sending my children because I don’t feel it’s safe yet and I think it would actually be mentally damaging for them. I will be homeschooling them though as I’ve done every day since lockdown started. I’m lucky that I can do my self employment in evenings and I know not everyone is in the same position. Hopefully if those of us who can school from home do it will make social distancing easier for the schools. If I get fined then so be it. I really don’t feel it’s safe or necessary for them to be first back

excitedmumtobe87 · 10/05/2020 22:28

Especially as I myself am vulnerable

FourTeaFallOut · 10/05/2020 22:31

I'm not worried at all about my year six going to secondary school without all the transition fuss. He'll be fine, just like we all were when we were jettisoned out of primary school without any drama.

onedayatatime73 · 10/05/2020 22:33

Does he mean "starting" with yr R/1 and 6. Or only? As in - might the other years fo back (reception) before the summer or is this the limit?

Delatron · 10/05/2020 22:37

But Yr6 are 11 so not in the under 10 group.

WifeofDarth · 10/05/2020 22:48

V interesting charts quartz
The order of priority makes sense now.

londonskyline · 10/05/2020 22:49

In step two – at the earliest by June 1 – after half term – we believe we may be in a position to begin the phased reopening of shops and to get primary pupils back into schools, in stages, beginning with reception, Year 1 and Year 6.

@onedayatatime73 this is the transcript. It suggests starting with those years and adding more gradually. It sounds like ideally they'd like primary up and running throughout the term. No idea if it'll work though.

PurpleFlower1983 · 10/05/2020 22:50

Childcare. It’s madness.

We3kingsoforientareandabump · 10/05/2020 22:50

I wondered if yr6 were included as parents of children that age may leave them at home while they were at work?