Disgusted at VE celebrations

[runrunrunrunt]

I absolutely cannot believe what went on last night in this country.

The government should never have encouraged this nonsense and instead should have firmly nipped the idea of celebration completely in the bud.

Absent Boris should have never implied lockdown will be eased on Monday a couple of days before a fucking sunny VE Day bank holiday when we still have 5,000 plus new cases every day.

It isn't rocket science.

I am absolutely appalled.

@Olsi109 @Petrachat. You clearly do not understand VE Day at all. Read the history. It’s a celebration of the END of hostilities which is completely different to Remembrance Day which honours the fallen and injured of every conflict - including those in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Just as a matter of interest - let’s just wind the clock back 12 months and imagine this - if this country had many million pounds worth of PPE stored in warehouses up and down the country and no possible forecast of this terrible pandemic- I suspect the press and all the people now screaming that we didn’t do enough would have been just as outraged and jumping up and down at the ‘waste’ of NHS funds which could have been spent in cancer care etc. Just saying.....

Oh shut up! People have had enough! It's been 2 months. Let people decide from themselves. As long as you stay locked down you will be okay - just worry about yourself.

Just worry about yourself? My daughter is an nhs nurse who has been told she is extremely likely to get covid due to the level of contact she is having. She has seen none of her family, myself included for over two months and risks her own health daily to help others. Every person who enters that ward is another risk to her life and the lives of other staff. So if you think the attitude above is ok it shows what a selfih bastard you are!!

@Swimminglikeaswan - I’m not sure who you’re sounding off at or is it just everyone here in general?

I’m also a nurse, a theatre sister working in vascular theatres and have bern supporting our make shift ITU beds in recovery for the last few weeks. Thankfully, we’re now in a position where we’ve been able to deep clean recovery and we’ll be starting some less urgent cases in the next week or so.

My oldest sister died from coronavirus three weeks ago. My niece who is also a nurse currently has the virus. At the moment, I’m (fingers crossed) fit and well.

I don’t begrudge anybody a few hours of joy right now. We had our little street party here in our little rural hamlet. We number less than twenty houses and are surrounded by fields. There is one road in and out of our community. Everyone was sensible. We all stayed in our own driveways and our party ended at just after 9pm after the Queen’s speech and singing we’ll meet again.

The three kiddies who live here had a lovely afternoon which was great to see - given that they’ve been locked away since their school closed.

I’ve been so sad seeing the little ten year old girl across the road who is an only child just waving to me through her window when I get back from work. So, NO I won’t apologise for brightening ONE afternoon for that child and the other two who live in our village.

The day we can’t find a little bit of joy is the day we lose our humanity. Even at work we’ve managed to share a bit of humour from time to time even in the middle of exhausting shifts and many tears as well. Selfish bastards that we are!

Not talking about people finding an hour or two of sensible joy.

Talking about groups of households getting pissed and breaking all social distancing rules in selfish and stupid ways being replicated hundreds if not thousands of times across the country.

@lincolnfield

I didn’t mention November and I think you’ll find Fridays VE Day celebrations were to celebrate the 75 year anniversary to commemorate those who sacrificed their lives in WW2. Not Iraq or Afghanistan.

I’m very well clued up thank you.

That aside I agree that people would probably have been moaning about PPE wastage 12 months ago, you’re right. However I think the handling of it, sourcing and providing it, and trying to cover it up is what angered people.

Hi lincolnfield. Was copy of part of very arrogant earlier post which has now been deleted. So sorry to hear of your loss and i have everything crossed for little ones rapid recovery. Thank you for everything you do

@Olsi109 - sorry I don’t mean to harp on - there are enough people on here doing that! 😂😂 but you mentioned 11th November which, you’re quite right is to remember the fallen from every conflict, but as I said VE Day is not about that. It’s the day the German High Command signed the unconditional surrender so the celebration is because it was the END of the war.

God willing, at the end of this terrible pandemic we may have similar celebrations. It’s sobering though to remember that the Spanish flu pandemic lasted from 1918 until 1920 and estimated deaths worldwide were around 50 million people. No vaccine or treatment was ever found for it and the second wave was more deadly than the first with further waves up until November 2020. I remember learning about this when I did an infectious diseases course as a young nurse - it was very scary. It’s still thought that after time that virus mutated to a less lethal strain because the initial ‘hosts’ - the poor devils who died had all gone.

Unfortunately we have no idea how this virus is going to behave.

I suspect that those who behaved inappropriately have probably not been too fussed at keeping to the rules anyway. In our street people kept pretty much to their own gardens, but if anyone wandered about talking to others the 2m rule was observed. It was a much needed opportunity to be neighbourly again. Unfortunately, the only person that would have remembered VE day was too old to come out. Luckily, we all went out to sing happy birthday for her 96th on the 4 May. Socially distanced, of course. We care about each other in this street...

@Swimminglikeaswan thank you for your kind words! I’ve been fortunate to have a long weekend off after doing 11 x 12 hour shifts up until last Friday. I’ll be back at the coal face tomorrow at 7am.

Despite some of the nonsense spouted on MN it’s a bit of light relief to be honest because even the daftest most opinionated posts make me laugh!

I have to admit that I am missing my sister a lot but being so busy means I haven’t got time to dwell on it just now. I’m sure I’ll be able to got to Mass and say a prayer for her when this is over - God willing.

In the grand scheme of things two months is not a huge amount of time ( and i need longer apart from my family tbh).

I'm sorry but I am inclined to say it is the fault of Covidiiots. It was perfectly manageable to celebrate and keep distance. I watched it in my own street. We live in a cul-de-sac and most families were in their front gardens. Those who were never left their gardens and never had others visiting throughout the event. We arranged it via an online chat and there were a few leaflets delivered to those who weren't on online chat. Each family created a 3 foot no man's land from each fence. So kids understood the boundaries. Marked it out with tape, chalk paint etc. Meaning 3ft of my garden, 3ft of neighbours garden was inaccessible totalling the necessary 6ft. We had picnics drinks, people dressed up, one man played his bugle. The kids shouted across to each other. Two kids even wore rubber gloves to play pass the ball from one garden to the other. Then washed their hands after removing them. They ended up with 3 balls on the road outside. They were left for an adult to collect after celebrations because we made it fun and a game to the kids. We made clear outlines where they couldn't go and we asked that all families joining in forfitted excercise during party time so that the kids involved wouldn't be enticed to leave the gardens. Kids decorated with bunting and we organised games via a loud speaker. We danced had music and celebrated as is our right, I anything right now we should be remembering what they went through in the war, how they managed. Ignoring such celebrations gives nobody hope for a better future, we managed to do it but nobody broke lockdown. Not one person in this cul-de-sac broke it. So yes you can celebrate without blaming the prime minister for it all. He is doing his best to protect the country. People are crying about economy and he eased a few minor measures to help economy get back on its feet. People cried about their kids education so he mentioned a possibility of going back in stages from June. I'm seeing more an more flout the lockdown rule's only to air views on Facebook about how they aren't risking their kids health by sending them back too early, two minutes after having pool parties and BBQs. It makes me sick. What is it you all want do you want the economy to recover if so stop organising little get togethers having parties and BBQs, going to visit friends and family and vulnerbale people, your the one destroying chances of lockdown easing. Boris never announced lockdown would ease. He made it clear there would be a few minor tweaks. Stupid idiots in the media changed this to "Easeing Lockdown" and the government had to correct this repeatedly and make it clear it would only be minor tweaks that are needed for people's sanity ,mental health and for the economy to recover. Don't blame Boris he is trying to make everyone happy. But people want it all as if they expect him to wave a magic wand and make this disappear. He can't we aljl have to do our bit. Saying we shouldn't celebrate is ridicolous. Does that mean if it comes to Christmas and wave two has hit we should cancel Christmas.

@GayGrandma

See that’s the thing - people seem to think if they go out in the street chatting and keep 2m apart they are observing social distancing rules - they are NOT. The 2m rule was brought in as a minimum guideline To observe if you HAVE to go to work, HAVE to go to the shops, HAVE to go to the doctors etc. Other than that the social distancing rules were stay in your own bloody home and only with members of your own household - stay away from others if you go out to exercise. Not once was it said you can mingle with your neighbours so long as you keep at arms length, which will then no doubt become nose length after a few beers 🙄

Lincolnfield Well he certainly does work in "mysterious ways" certainly true from the learning curve we are all on right now. Glad you are getting some r&r. Thanks again! Apology for rant but it makes my blood boil that some people are happy to consider this everyone elses problem. Forgiveness, forgiveness, forgiveness. Sometimes easier than others

@malificent7 I just love your comment! That has cracked me up! 😂😂

Runrunrunrunt

Glad you are back after all the hate you have received on here from Covidiots.

Just wanted to say thank you for your original post and that I agree with you.

i totally agree every thursday i clap for the nhs ect im disabled i have been 100% on lockdown hipocripts on my street on vd were all partying laughing getting drunk outside in the drive it made me mad they even have the pictures in the windows support the nhs what a joke

@Olsi109 I quote you, "VE day is an important event and the British and other allied lives lost in WW2 need to be remembered. Like many others I am glad VE day was celebrated."
Thank you for your patronising comments, I'm well aware of the difference between VE Day and Rememberance Day, you seem to have been confused when you wrote the quoted post !!!

@petrachat

The quote you just quoted is not something I wrote it was another poster - I quoted it in my comment so that I could respond to the quote and the poster.

I was not patronising you at all - Lincoln tried to correct you not me

I'll celebrate when it's under control thanks which isn't now.

I am absolutely disgusted by some of these comments. As much as I fully support and abide completely with the Stay at home, and social distancing. I think we do need to as a nation thank the hero's who risked their lives to give us our freedom. Covid 19 lockdown restrictions are nothing compared to what the Nazis would have done to our freedoms, we wouldn't have any whatsoever!

I would have liked to see fly pasts across every major town and city, so that people could have enjoyed them from their gardens. I didn't participate in any street party celebrations but I think you come across as very disrespectful to say that we should not have celebrated in some way. So we flew our flag, the Union Jack, yes the one some very odd people find racist, funny that as one of my neighbours who is black, was proudly displaying his Union Jack.

As for the governments message, jeez, give me a break...why can't some of you people use common sense and take precautions for your own safety?

And rather than blaming the government, take personal responsibility, after all you are adults. You can't expect the government to think for you too!

I'm disgusted at the OP to be honest, calling VE day celebrations nonsense is highly ignorant and disrespectful.

Yes, some individuals will have broken the rules but OP are you seriously suggesting those people would have been abiding by the rules if not for VE day and/or government encouragement to celebrate?

Sorry @ Olsi109 your correct it was @Lincolnfield , with the patronising comment , she should have read the whole conversation, before " educating ", others.

When our nation was in need, our soldiers, and countless civilians worked together to get us through it - at great GREAT sacrifice.

Now our nation once again needs us all to work together to get through the current crisis.
I am sure those who went before us would have understood the need to save more lives taking priority.

I read the OPs message & I'm not convinced it's even for real.
However if the OP is a real person, then they've missed the point.

Because of the war, we live in a democracy where people can decide for themselves what they do. It's called A FREE SOCIETY.
Therefore if people want to go out and celebrate then they can.
The key is to inform them of the risk, and then assume they have the mental capacity to make choices!

Do you have the mental capacity to make choices OP?
Or perhaps when travel restrictions are lifted you would like to go and live in another country where the government can dictate your every movement.
Then you'll have more time at home to crouch down behind the sofa feeling appalled.

Celebrate the freedom to make good and bad choices.
But we should not confuse that with celebrating bad choices.