Disgusted at VE celebrations

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I absolutely cannot believe what went on last night in this country.

The government should never have encouraged this nonsense and instead should have firmly nipped the idea of celebration completely in the bud.

Absent Boris should have never implied lockdown will be eased on Monday a couple of days before a fucking sunny VE Day bank holiday when we still have 5,000 plus new cases every day.

It isn't rocket science.

I am absolutely appalled.

Has peace broken out?

yay!!!!

I totally think they’re going for herd immunity by stealth...lots of hints and change of task to ‘stay alert’. Presumably we will be able to spot the virus if we’re alert enough

Near us lots of people celebrated inside or on their front gardens still able to see neighbours but without actually getting close to one another. We stayed inside and had a tea party inside while watching the bbc broadcast on it.

I mean I do sort of sympathise with people getting frustrated. We live in an overcrowded flat with no garden I hate it right now. Not to mention all these MPs and health officials etc preaching to follow rules while breaking them themselves. It’s not hard to see why other people don’t think the rules matter.

Herd immunity is just a point we should reach eventually anyway (providing we do actually have an immunity to it)

It's more a matter of how quickly we can get there with the minimum number of lives lost. The faster we do it, the sooner the virus can't sustain spreading. It's not so much a solution, as a state we'd like to reach.

However, if we do it slower, that buys us time to try and develop a vaccine, or at least better techniques to treat it.

If money were no object, slower would be better.

Not everyone acted as morons. People need to be responsible for themselves and you can’t blame the government for idiots.

On our road at all time’s there was well more that 2 meters between families, no music.

I drove a short distance to an outdoor fruit/veg Pop up shop And enroute also saw the same. People, clearly small families, in their own front gardens, bunting, flags etc.

I read an interesting article that said herd immunity, though unproven, might have worked if the vulnerable had been protected at the same time. Unfortunately, they (we as it happens) weren't. There's a battle going on in the Tory party at the moment between those who want to get the economy up and running (at whatever cost) and those who want keep the lockdown going for a bit longer. It was never meant to be forever but, as has been shown in Germany and S.Korea, this virus is has not been defeated, it's just waiting to pop up again. I have no confidence that our inept government has any idea what they are doing. Celebrate VE day all you like but I'm ashamed to be British now.

Yes I think there’s a bit of “heard immunity by stealth “ going on here. The VE Day celebrations was insane- people having street parties & sitting all over the pavements as of lockdown didn’t exist! It’s a bloody joke.

I agree! our street was having street part on own lawns while socially distancing. I had decided to avoid it, but then DC heard the noise/loud music and wanted to go out. I went out hoping we would social distance as planned but there were loads of breaches of 2m rule with me and DC who are vulnerable. I told DC and other parents that we are vunerable so have to stay 2m away but they said 'sorry' and continued breaching 2m. So I went back inside with DC who were really annoyed with me for making them come in, and I was really annoyed about the whole thing and neighbours who were taking about it as this VE Day was the beginning of the end of the pandemic.

Were the government doing some sort of experiment to see how much of a spike in cases they would get ? They should have told us not to go out at all, not suggest tea party on lawn !!

Regarding responsibility, sadly those that don't take responsibility for themselves also affect those that did. That's the sad part. It's not that their own actions compromise only themselves, but everybody else too.

As for the economy, sadly the nation's health and the economy are inextricably linked, both now and in the future. There is no such this as 'at any financial cost'... as the financial cost will have a bearing on the health cost too.

I agree Goatymcgoaty
And the government will be able to blame the following spike in cases on the public.

Why is everyone so quick to blame the government and not take any personal responsibility for how they act?
Why on earth should lockdown be ‘enforced’? Should we really be wasting the time of emergency services or even the military to stop people from maybe taking 2 bits of exercise (god forbid) or from buying what others might not deem to be essential items?
Get a grip! VE Day is to celebrate the end of a far worse time in history than we are going through now. Maybe some people wanted to show their respect, have a chat with the neighbours (distanced obvs) and take a moment to enjoy life. We make be in lockdown but we don’t have to be miserable. This isn’t a dictatorship but it seems like some would like it to be.

Sorry to hear about your experience- I feared that would be the case for some. Children see what’s going on and want to join in but people don’t respect the social distancing rules. Far from bringing the country together over COVID19 I think it’s making me more judgemental of the idiots around than ever before!!

When they start to reduce the restrictions, it will be an experiment. This is just the reality of matters. They will need to see what the effect is, and try to measure that... it will be a series of experiments ultimately.

'Experiment' sounds quite bad, but that's the long and short of it.

@Bettybattenburg I just spat my diamond white out reading this

Everyone got their own idea of lockdown. By and large the responsible thoughtful brighter ones will want to avoid either getting the virus or spreading it round and will have more chance of surviving as a whole family or whole community. Conversely the dimwits won’t and use mangled and half arsed arguments as to why they are right. Thus we see nature in action. The brighter survive well and intact, the stupid suffer more. It has always been so.

People need to be responsible for themselves and you can’t blame the government for idiots..

Other people and other people's DC were moving into my DC space - despite me telling them that we need to maintain 2m rule. They were also offering to give us last piece of food off their plate whilst getting too close.

I have read a few comments which refer to people having had parties due to their lack of compassion. Covid 19 is amongst many diseases which are caused by humans' ill treatment of animals. If people stop eating animals then Covid 19 and the like wouldn't exist. I think we need to stop moaning about parties, and instead moan about animal agriculture in this country (and the wet markets in China - we are no better) or better still, do something about it. Adopting a cruelty free life style by choosing to not consume animal products will ensure we don't continue to face these diseases (I include cancer and heart disease in there as well as diabetes and arthritis). I believe firmly that you reap what you sow and I think the parties that happened on VE day are the least of our problems.

I don’t think it’s “aimless moaning”, it seemed quite clear and simple to decipher: Social distancing and celebrating with the people in your home = good party during a pandemic; conga lines, alcohol, and children running a muck through everyone’s gardens = bad for a pandemic. ???why is this a difficult concept?

Again, when the irresponsible end up on an ICU ward and a perfectly responsible person gets turned away because the beds are already taken up by the idiots, others suffer.

Many will spread the virus without knowing, and they'll be totally oblivious to their contribution to the deaths.

Myself, partner and neighbours celebrated the 75th Anniversary of VE day at the front of our properties observing the 2m distance, a neighbour opposite came to join us, she and her husband sat on the road (my immediate neighbour moved his car to implement the distance) some one called the police, and they arrived and told us to go in because of the opposite neighbour coming across to us!!!
I am not stupid, nor are our neighbours, we know the seriousness of this horrific virus and observed social distancing.... and i for one enjoyed my lovely neighbours company, the beautiful sunshine and some delicious wine.... my heart, soul and mind felt incredibly full.

So, i am sorry if that offends anyone.

Well “CrazyCatPerson”, at least you warned us all with your name. Should have known it would be some post about how all our problems are because we eat meat...give me a break. 🥱

I totally agree. The This Morning programme on itv on Friday showed a street party with people sitting in groups quite close together from different households, the photos in the newspapers of crowded streets and people not really social distancing . On my street I know for a fact one family had their adult children visiting them and sitting in their front lawn round a table and bunting/flags etc...Expect a rise in cases and deaths in a couple of weeks. The government need to be more firm as many in this country think lock down is done and dusted because they only hear what they want to hear.

I watched it too and wondered why I shouldn’t do exactly as I please like visiting my parents and friends etc when it was obviously alright to do all that if it’s for VE Day??

Sadly many people just don’t have it in them to be sensible and no matter what the Government do they can cure stupidity

@crazycatperson

There is no evidence that turning vegan would eradicate virii or cancer.
I don't disagree with our need to be more considerate of how we live our lives and co-exist with other species, but it isn't a panacea for all human illnesses.