For those who want schools to go back..

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.. tell us how you think it should work. Primary or secondary.

In your ideal world.

How would social distancing be adhered to?
How about drop off and pick up?
How would classrooms operate?
How about lunchtimes and breaktimes?
What about after school childcare provision?
What about staff who are sheidling?
What about children who are sheilding?
What about staff who have family members who are sheilding?
Should only some children go back? Who should they be and why?

So many education and school experts on here, it will be interesting to read your safe solutions.

@Fedup21

It’s suggestions like this that highlight the need for decisions such as how to reopen schools MUST be made by people who work in schools.

Go on then, come up with solutions not problems for god's sake!

Ermm because one of you is it home to care for your kids because you're not teaching in school?

Your other half would be free to find work if made redundant?

Absolutely @Fedup21 .

Perhaps teachers should make a human chain to fill and pass the buckets of water for children to wash their hands in!

When did schools become so bloody precious about everything?

You clearly don’t understand the message stated in every single thread on this subject that it is the DfE that decides on schools opening and closing, not individual schools. Here’s the guidance, if you still don’t get it:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-guidance-on-vulnerable-children-and-young-people/coronavirus-covid-19-guidance-on-vulnerable-children-and-young-people

All the suggestions you have made Flax would be nothing to do with teachers. They would not be the ones sourcing buckets and carrying water etc.

Who would be sourcing them? Is it too much to ask now of teachers to fill up a bucket of water. What is it. That you might spill some or something and then someone might slip on it and graze their hand. I don't understand

If you can't see why walking between socially distanced pupils to hand out jotters might be an issue...

No I don't see the issue. I know many on here get their shopping delivered by Ocado or Waitrose or whatever but have you been in a supermarket recently and seen the conditions in there. I know it keeps getting mentioned but what makes teachers think they're more at risk than supermarket staff or public transport workers, or taxi drivers, or God forbid, nurses and care home staff.

Why are teachers a special case?

You're also key workers so you can send your kids to school!

@CallmeAngelina

What on earth is wrong with a bucket and soap FFS? You do realise until quite recently in human history and for billions of people currently that is a totally normal way to wash.

@Otherrooms well if you have had it it’s a good thing for your immune system! More of us had had than you realise.

Or have you forgotten the government started this “heard immunity” in the first place. I don’t want to see people die but we do have LIMITED options here.

You are assuming none of the posters have had it facts is theres a good chance they have had it.

@Floatyboat the unions have. They are speaking to heads. Our local area is organising a coordinated plan. It will probably involve small groups and limited numbers and part time schooling as done elsewhere. It will need to take account of potential sickness, liability and safeguarding. When we are directed to open to more children and able to do this safely we will. It will all work the best way it can for the biggest number of our children. If it doesn't work for you, sorry, but it is not our fault, it is the fault of the virus.

Is it too much to ask now of teachers to fill up a bucket of water. What is it. That you might spill some or something and then someone might slip on it and graze their hand. I don't understand

No, you really don’t understand, do you? Maybe just stop posting before you embarrass yourself even more.

Fucking hell teaching unions have been trying to change government policies as long as I can remember. With no luck, because the government does not and has never given a fuck about what teachers think. If they did would we have constant testing? League tables? A secondary curriculum that alienates so many students. The media came up with the first of June the DOfE has repeatedly said that have not coming up with any sort of date for returning. The reasons they closed schools for the majority in the first place still exist, to protect kids, their families and therefore the NHS to suggest otherwise is stupid. The government has set out a 5 part plan as to when schools can open. The GOVERNMENT, not the teachers, have not accomplished their aims yet.

I'm get that teachers should be the ones making decisions but I think it would help people of schools and teachers started sharing what their plans were for when they do have to open. You must be formulating different plans and scenarios?? What are they? You can't be waiting for government guidance that won't reflect your schools?

FLAXMEADOW

You keep going on about buckets.

So use buckets of water and a cheap bar of soap. What's the problem?

Are you actually stupid?
A shortage of sinks and you're suggesting using buckets of water and cheap soap?
Each child using the same dirty soapy water?
Or are you suggesting we refill each bucket after each child with clean water? Oh... yeh...not enough taps or sinks...F'ing hell.
Maybe we could hose them all down after each lesson...down ... again... not enough taps

Teachers think they have it harder than anybody else right now.
Name me ONE teacher on here who has said that. Just the one. (not to mention the other 500,000 or so of us).

People that are that anxious about it (rightly so) could of had it anyway!
It's "could HAVE had it."

That’s well above my pay grade.

My HT-whose responsibility it would be to implement it in my school though-is provisionally planning for a return for 10 children per class-keeping sibling days together, which would probably mean each child would get 2 days in school a week. Our problem is size of school, lack of staff (teaching, support and site/cleaning) so can’t spread classes out more than the number of classrooms we have plus one hall.

Obviously, it’s down to the DfE to instruct what schools ‘must‘ do and then we can plan the ‘how’ around that.

I don't understand

Never a truer word...

Greenlorry

You want everyone to guess?

Oh, and now we have to check kids' hair for nits, whilst we're at it?
Hairdressers aren't allowed to go back to work, but teachers can do this?
FFS.
Is this thread nearly over?

This thread is so sad - it's parents V teachers. It shouldn't be. No-one has created this - no-one is enjoying it. As a profession we are being told we cannot open. Yet some parents seem to think it's because we are being precious. We are not. I want to get back, I want my life back, but I also want it to be safe. I'm not an expert. I'm doing as I'm told by the experts. Don't attack the profession.

You clearly don’t understand the message stated in every single thread on this subject that it is the DfE that decides on schools opening and closing, not individual schools. Here’s the guidance, if you still don’t get it

So protest it! Do something. Organise yourselves

But it's not it that is it. It's obvious by these threads that many teachers simply do not want to go back to work, and are probably putting that pressure on their superiors and their unions. All these excuses are being fed back up the chain of command. Whether the govt decides or not, this unwillingness to get back to work hardly inspires confidence with anyone

@CallmeAngelina suggesting a child should have their lunch at home.
It’s ridiculous!
I won’t list the others..

@Mistressiggi the magic bucket tree is growing next to the magic money tree that's going to be used to pay for the staff that are going to have nothing else to do than stand next to te buckets for the hours it would take for a whole school to wash their hands once. I mean my school is over 1500 pupils. By the time they were all done it would be time to go home again.

Defeatist😂

Buckets of water🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼Best thing I’ve heard for years!!!!

My school is the size of a small town/village, over 2000 people in it.

How many bloody buckets would that take then?😂😂😂😂in shared cold water😷

Oh, and now we have to check kids' hair for nits, whilst we're at it?

It was a tongue in cheek remark. But you knew that