Fertility treatment to resume

[barbites]

Great news if you are having fertility treatment. Not sure why this is a priority given all the critical treatments and investigations put on hold.
Would really like dd to get her braces put on at the Orthodontists but obviously it's closed. Don't understand why fertility treatment has been prioritised?

Totally irresponsible to think about getting pregnant right now.

Why? It doesn't cost that much extra time really. Two scans and a birth in a total of 9 months time? That's hardly stretching the services.

"I don’t know why you want to have this mental image of a woman swanning in to have her 6th baby implanted stepping over someone who is literally going to go blind; when the actual most likely scenario is that fertility treatments will take place at a private clinic off site entirely."

I think you have a very vivid imagination. It's quite normal to wonder why fertility first.

@seeingdots saw I had been mentioned and just popped back in to say thank you ❤️

@Dyrne

I agree this argument is going round in circles. She just doesn't get it.

@TabbyMumz
The government specifically mentioned IVF because there has been a lot of publicity and campaigns about the closure. I haven't seen the same coverage of knee surgery for example

Also like I said most IVF is paid for privately and some in private clinic by professionals that haven't/can't be seconded to the NHS. UNLIKE most other treatment which was recently cancelled - this treatment was and always done by NHS doctors. IVF isn't done by NHS doctors in the majority of situations

"TabbyMumz
The government specifically mentioned IVF because there has been a lot of publicity and campaigns about the closure. I haven't seen the same coverage of knee surgery for example"
I havent seen any publicity about infertility at all. I've seen lots around heart patients and stroke patients not being able to get physio etc. And people not being able to get cancer testing. You know, life and death sort of things.

Boris has had a baby and now your caring, sharing Tory government say you can have one too. Aren't they just GREAT!

Restoring this non-essential service is simply a way of staying popular and detracting from governmental failure.

I havent seen any publicity about infertility

Maybe because it doesn't interest you or effect you

Certain IVF clinics have been on the news and in every major publication daily about the effect of cancelling treatment

Wow there is a total lack of empathy on this thread!

This is amazing news for all those people it there who have tried to conceive & it was put on hold without knowing when it may start again. There is a time limit to IVF & why should people on here have the right to say you should only be able to access IVF if you can afford to pay for it or it isn't important?!

I know I am so lucky to have conceived my little girl naturally last year but many people are not as lucky. They should not be penalised just because they cannot get pregnant naturally.

To also say nobody should be getting pregnant at this time, IVF or otherwise is also really disgusting. You have no right to tell people what they can & cannot do. We have no idea how long this may take. People still have their lives to live. We cannot all just put everything on hold.

Imagine having hospitals with trained midwifes but they can't do their jobs because So-and-so said on Mumsnet that we are irresponsible for having children!!!

I don't regret having a newborn during the pandemic.

Restoring this non-essential service is simply a way of staying popular and detracting from governmental failure.

Actually the government never came out and specifically suspended IVF treatment by PRIVATE CLINICS - it was the decision of an independent body the HFEA which governs fertility clinics which made that decision

But some people like to make everything about politics

"I havent seen any publicity about infertility"

"Maybe because it doesn't interest you or effect you."

And maybe you've only noticed it because it interests you. That's often the case.

"Certain IVF clinics have been on the news and in every major publication daily about the effect of cancelling treatment"

Really? What about cancer and strokes and heart disease etc...have you not seen that? It's been on the news daily.

I dont see your point? You think because you've seen articles about it, that the govt thought to mention that specifically.
Sorry, it's just odd. Can you not see that when millions are awaiting treatment for life and death things, it's not a good idea for the govt to mention fertility in particular.

It's like ...everything is shut down..you can all wait for cancer testing, stroke treatment, eye treatment etc etc....but a bit of good news guys...fertility clinics can open..yayyyyyy. not.

Fantastic news. The longer the wait the more some patients have their chance to be parents narrowed.

Fertility patients aren’t ill so not at risk. Very little face to face contact. You do most of the drug treatment yourself.Stands to reason it would be one of the first to restart. Heartbreaking but understandable it was stopped and a nice positive to hear it being restarted.

The government specifically mentioned IVF because there has been a lot of publicity and campaigns about the closure. I haven't seen the same coverage of knee surgery for example

Maybe because people who are actually ill or in pain or facing fear of not being treated don’t have the same ability to shout and campaign like healthy people who want ivf?

Gawd some people are either being deliberately obtuse or are just thick.

This seems completely sensible to me! Surely it’s much safer for otherwise healthy women to be able to resume fertility treatments in a sensible/protected way than for dentists and orthodontists to have to resume getting up close and personal with peoples mouths? (you know, where the virus usually jumps out of!).

Tbh I’m firmly in the avoiding TTC camp at the moment due to Covid and ideally I think younger people who no known fertility issues should wait if they can. BUT if someone doesn’t have time on their side and was already having fertility treatment then they absolutely should be able to crack on if it can be done in a safe way! Great news

My Dh is waiting for an op. The pain of being prevented from IVF and an increased chance of no family was far more painful. He has been on both sides of the fence and was really pleased for those on the nightmare IVF trail.

I’ve noticed it before - a lot of mumsnet posters have a really sneering and dismissive attitude to women who require fertility treatment. On the infertility boards there is a great deal of empathy but in AIBU many take a ‘tough shit’ attitude.

I think I'd be more worried about dental treatment - particularly if I or anyone I knew was in pain - than infertility. In 'normal' times I have great sympathy for those who are infertile but I don't see it as a priority at the moment, in fact rather irresponsible to plan a pregnancy when we don't know what sort of a country or world we'd be bringing a child into.

There are other things in life.

On the infertility boards there is a great deal of empathy but in AIBU many take a ‘tough shit’ attitude.

I think that's because most people who comment on fertility related threads in AIBU if they haven't gone through it themselves and therefore have some understanding of the issue are either the smugly fertile "I just have to look at my husband and I'm pregnant with triplets" sort or are the "I'm childfree and proud....you don't need a child to validate your life" Brigade

It's a very difficult, personal and emotional journey to experience fertility issues

There are those that for which nothing I can say can help you understand what it's like and there are those for whom no words are necessary because they've been through it themselves.

The thing is that often cancer treatments and fertility treatment go hand in hand. For younger people with a cancer diagnosis, being able to have their eggs/sperm stored before they start chemo gives them the option to safeguard their future fertility. By keeping the ivf clinics closed, you’re delaying the start of chemo even further. Open them up and then patients are reading to begin their intensive, immunocompromising treatment as soon as it’s safe for them to do so, without further delay

Also, the reason the government mentioned IVF specifically is because it’s such a contentious topic. They want the media to get into a froth about it so they are conveniently distracted from the lack of PPE and all those healthcare workers who are dying

@SnarkWeek

Thankfully clinics were allowed to stay open for fertility preservation as a result of a cancer diagnosis

@SnarkWeek

I also think it was mentioned because it is probably the biggest (and most expensive) treatment that a person pays for privately and they effectively said we couldn't have the treatment we had paid for

Most employers offer a workplace health insurance scheme which covers every other condition EXCEPT fertility treatment so it's one of the few things except cosmetic treatment that people have to pay for themselves

Yes patients having private treatment for say knee ops were also cancelled BUT private hospitals were appropriated by the government to treat virus patients. Private IVF clinics have not shared any resources or staff in anyway

TabbyMumz "There are actually very few which are part of NHS hospital buildings"
I can think of 3 big hospitals near me where they are in the main hospital, right off the main walkway

Ok, you have clearly never had fertility test or treatment of any kind. Those clinics in the hospital are not IVF clinics. Those are where you go to sit and have appointments looooong before you get to IVF. It’s where you wait to have internal scans to make sure your ovaries are ok, and where they do Hycosy and laparoscopies (basically in exactly the same cubicles as the pregnant women, they just give you a different waiting room). There is an awful lot of testing and examinations that have to happen before you get to IVF and it’s much less distressing being able to sit in a waiting room which isn’t full of heavily pregnant women rubbing their bumps!

I've had ivf I understand how important it is. I'm waiting on a colposcopy, guess someone somewhere thinks new life is more important than my dd potentially having her mother!!?

No Worried somebody thought there was less risk to patient and staff for IVF.