Fertility treatment to resume

[barbites]

Great news if you are having fertility treatment. Not sure why this is a priority given all the critical treatments and investigations put on hold.
Would really like dd to get her braces put on at the Orthodontists but obviously it's closed. Don't understand why fertility treatment has been prioritised?

It is because 'new life' is a morale booster. They will likely resume Weddings by zoom as well. Things that bring joy with minimal social distancing issues :) Am happy though - as I am waiting for both!

@Burpeesshmurpees exactly, adoption is always the answer! Not that there is anything wrong with adoption but fertility issues and adoption are more complex than that

You do understand that fertility treatments and other critical treatments are carried out by different people. How does commencing fertility treatments impact upon orthodontists?

I can certainly tell you that after 10 years struggling to get pregnant, miscarriages and finally 2 lots of IVF - having my child did in fact save my life. Nothing else would have helped.

Some of these women have only months left before legal cut off and so need their treatment now.

Obviously all hospital treatment should resume when it is safe to do so, but braces are nowhere near the top of the essential list.

Veeboo not my point. And actually as an NHS employee married to an NHS employee who is volunteering for Nightingale which is completely out of his usual day job, if we are still in the clutches of this virus and cannot staff the Nightingale hospitals, I'd argue all health care employees could be reassigned!

I was surprised to hear it being specifically announced yesterday, I got the feeling Matt Hancock was talking about a quite personal matter though, I wonder if he's been through FT with his wife so really understands what this means for lots of couples

Absolutely gobsmacked by this announcement. It is just completely irresponsible. Aren't pregnant women supposed to shield? What about the extra strain on NHS when there are all these extra pregnant women, coming into winter, flu season, 2nd wave?

People are not getting the life saving care they need but we can add extra burden on NHS by encouraging extra pregnancies? The mind boggles

@GetOffYourHighHorse start a post about that then, it’s totally unrelated. Matt Hancock didn’t have a big list of things he could choose to restart and he picked fertility treatment, the HFEA made the decision, presumably other appropriate medical bodies will make the decisions about when it’s right to start the other kinds of treatment.

I think this thread would have received a better welcome if it had been posted on another board.
I think lots of us have faced losses to this virus and it makes it harder to celebrate the gains of others

I think it's right that fertility treatments have restarted, I just hope other treatments follow quickly, although my migraine treatments are not life saving (botox and nerve blocks) not having them will mean that I lose my job very soon as I have daily migraine, I've already missed out on having a family due to them and had just managed to get a bit of a control back.

The NHS isn't 'one pot' so different services will be resumed at different times.

I agree cancer services and non-routine surgeries should be in full operation before IVF but it's not as simple as that in reality.

There's this idea that in the NHS, one intervention is taking away from another and it's not the case. There are different CCGs, different services and allocation of funding etc.

I do think IVF should be low on the list of priorities to resume but I understand it doesn't work that way.

What about the thousands of pounds that private patients have paid for treatment but can't have!!!??? I know for a fact none of my doctors and nurses were redeployed to the NHS and my treatment isn't going to affect NHS resources one bit

If you've never experienced infertility and IVF you aren't really qualified to have an opinion

Absolutely gobsmacked by this announcement. It is just completely irresponsible.

Fertile people aren't being told to stop having sexual and trying for a baby so why should infertile women

Cancer treatments have restarted? Last Monday? It was on the briefing.

Dentistry involves drilling, cleaning and aerosol particles in the air so it isn't comparable to fertility treatment.

People are also missing the fact that for lots of us doing IVF WE ARE PAYING FOR IT OURSELVES we are not accessing an NHS service or even going anywhere near an NHS hospital. The facilities, staff and resources are stand alone private clinics who don't share any resources with the NHS

^ this! I've spent over £40k on IVF, and am about to spend another £6k as soon as my clinic re-opens.

It makes literally no sense that the underfunded NHS would start actively creating more babies when we don’t even know how nurseries and schools are going to safely operate yet. While I understand that infertility is painful and that restarting fertility treatment may have absolutely no affect on whether other treatments and procedures are carried out or not, I think it’s incredibly insensitive to announce this when there are other people that can’t get more important treatments.

I have a friend who has had his operation to remove the cancer from his body cancelled. I know someone else who can barely walk and is in constant pain while waiting for a knee operation that had been cancelled. Others who have mental heath problems that didn’t get anywhere near the level of help they needed even before this virus, and now have even less. On both a societal level and an individual level, I don’t know how anyone can argue that those things are less important than fertility treatment that may not even work. It makes a mockery of all the thanks the NHS is getting right now.

but you will presumably be needing NHS care when pregnant? no?

I agree with you.
My GP thinks I have an autoimmune disease, which needed diagnosing 6 months ago...
But the hospital won’t accept new referrals.
Who knows when I’ll be able to get an appointment with a consultant now.
And it’s a condition which could cause irreparable damage to my fertility (and heart, kidneys, lungs) if untreated.
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but you will presumably be needing NHS care when pregnant? no?

What the odd scan in 3 months time? Or midwife visit in our own homes?

Best tell all the fertile people on the conception board to wrap it up then for the foreseeable future

creating more babies when we don’t even know how nurseries and schools are going to safely operate yet

Pretty sure pregnancy last 9 months and most children then have months of years before they go into nursery or schools - if we haven't got the virus sorted by then we really are in trouble

have a friend who has had his operation to remove the cancer from his body cancelled. I know someone else who can barely walk and is in constant pain while waiting for a knee operation that had been cancelled. Others who have mental heath problems that didn’t get anywhere near the level of help they needed even before this virus, and now have even less.

Really not relevant to those of us paying for our own treatment in private clinics

The first response on this thread really said it all.

What the odd scan in 3 months time? Or midwife visit in our own homes?

Well obviously those things aren’t a problem because they come for free and are funded by fairies. And it’s not like the nhs has to do anything else to ensure a safe pregnancy or birth, and you and your midwives can fly to appointments so that you aren’t creating any unnecessary road travel.

Tbh, I think anyone trying to conceive right now is a bit daft, regardless of whether or not they need medical help to do it.

Really not relevant to those of us paying for our own treatment in private clinics

It will be when you need nhs care to actually have the baby.

And is your argument really relative to the OP anyway considering you’re going private?