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Death rates vastly different in more affluent areas

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Rainycloudyday · 01/05/2020 12:43

Sorry if there has already been a thread on this. News today shows the shocking difference in death rates in more and less affluent areas. I’m not at all surprised sadly. On here I’m always surprised when people talk of knowing multiple people who have died. I live in a reasonably comfortable middle class area I suppose, and am from that background, and (touch wood) don’t personally know anyone who has passed away or been in hospital from Covid. For people who have lost several people around them, friends, neighbours etc. are you in more or less affluent areas?

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ToffeeYoghurt · 02/05/2020 16:53

Why single out (the mostly social housing residents) on Westminster Bridge? Of the permanent residents around the bridge more will be social housing than wealthy. There's been clapping in group gatherings, often outside hospitals, across the UK. All reported on. Stupid to do anywhere but no more stupid in one area than anywhere else.

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 02/05/2020 16:56

Were the tenants holding late night parties?

Clavinova, possibly a drug dealer?

The injunction, which is in place for six months, was issued by the court following reports of numerous individuals visiting a property in Hendon, despite strict ‘lockdown’ procedures.

www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/sunderland-resident-hit-injunction-after-18183261.amp

HeIenaDove · 02/05/2020 16:57

They cant be sure who people are when they are on that bridge though

But they can know for sure when they go to an estate.

And i think PR came into it for WB as well.

Alsohuman · 02/05/2020 16:59

@CompassNorth, I’m doing my best. Nothing would induce me to vote Tory and I’m ready and willing to pay more tax. I only own one home and put a few items in the food bank collection when I shop. I’d genuinely welcome any suggestions for what else I can do.

HeIenaDove · 02/05/2020 17:02

Drug dealer may explain a lot But when other tenants complain about these issues its usually ignored.

ToffeeYoghurt · 02/05/2020 17:11

You're right we can't be completely sure. It's likely to be people within walking distance though. Westminster Bridge is around the boroughs of Southwark and Lambeth. Large social housing estates in both boroughs. And lots of deprivation. More housing around the bridge is occupied by deprived people than it is by the wealthy. And many of the wealthier residents have left London. To their families as much as second homes. Some never lived there at all and leave their apartments empty year round as investments. The majority of Londoners do not live centrally.

It's a myth that London is awash with wealth. That's true only for a minority of often temporary residents. The power in Westminster - the houses of parliament and the like - is a place of work. Things are quite different for most of those who actually live around there.

I agree with you about the unfair consequences of wealthier holiday makers bringing the infection back to poorer communities - who go on to suffer the most.

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 02/05/2020 17:15

Drug dealer may explain a lot But when other tenants complain about these issues its usually ignored.

Ha! You're not wrong there!

Clavinova · 02/05/2020 17:47

9th April article - the Housing Association in Sunderland identified some cases of tenants breaching the lockdown restrictions by "hosting house and garden parties, incidents of street violence and having regular visitors to and from properties."

www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/house-parties-street-violence-sunderland-18069248#comments-section

I agree with you about the unfair consequences of wealthier holiday makers bringing the infection back to poorer communities - who go on to suffer the most.

Just as likely to involve migrant workers, students, illegal immigrants and less well off people visiting family abroad.

ToffeeYoghurt · 02/05/2020 17:55

Actually yes you're right Clavinova
And we still now have non essential travel going on. Makes a mockery of the lockdown and any pretence of protection for Londoners in particular(although some will be travelling on across the UK). Flights, albeit with reduced passenger numbers, are still arriving daily at Heathrow. No checks, no quarantine.

I don't actually see the issue with the housing association story above. It's the other tenants who suffer the most from behaviour like that. I'm glad the HA did something. Why should the decent tenants suffer. If it's the case that nothing is done usually, well that needs to change. With so many waiting for secure housing it's especially wrong that ongoing antisocial behaviour isn't tackled.

HatRack · 02/05/2020 18:21

I live in what would be considered a naice, middle class area, and the only people I know who had corona virus are my next door neighbours, but one of them is a nurse. They have both made a full recovery.

A nurse lives in a middle class area? I thought they were paid peanuts?

Gran22 · 04/05/2020 10:26

HatRack, the majority are not on high salaries, but senior sisters, ward managers, ACPS and ANPS are reasonably well paid. My daughter is in a senior nursing role, her DH is a professional in another field, their joint income must be six figures. Why wouldn't they live in a middle class area?

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