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Does this mean lockdown will not be reviewed again for the next 3 weeks?

88 replies

shesgrownhorns · 13/04/2020 20:01

At the daily press briefing they made it quite clear that lockdown would not be lifted when the review comes on Thursday.

So will that mean that it will remain the same for the next 3 weeks until the next review?

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refraction · 14/04/2020 08:54

Quote-You guys keep banging on about Spain easing their lockdown. Do you realise that even with their easing their lockdown restrictions

Agree with this people seem to focus on just the headline and not what is actually happening.

Nsky · 14/04/2020 08:57

Personally I ‘m expecting till end if June, I’d prefer sooner

dottiedodah · 14/04/2020 08:59

Dear Daily Fail seem to know we will be out of Lockdown on May 7th(how?!) and have it in their paper today .This seems a fairly likely date as around 3 weeks from now ,but no one knows for certain surely?

covetingthepreciousthings · 14/04/2020 09:00

There’s so much talk atm of when lockdown will be lifted yet surely, at this point, if anything lockdown will be tightened whilst we are at or close to the peak.

I keep thinking surely they will announce a tighter lockdown soon, but doesn't seem to be happening?

Redwinestillfine · 14/04/2020 09:02

It's not the British way to 'order', I don't think they'll tighten the lockdown if they don't have to and people seem to be complying.

moomoogalicious · 14/04/2020 09:04

@starsparkle08 thanks. Unfortunately dd refuses to go out and do anything that will help the situation. She is angry and confrontational. What she needs is to go back to college and get back to a routine. Even a gradual lifting would be better so she could meet up with her bf. People saying the lockdown will be 6 or 12 months and we just need to get on with it are not looking further than their own situation - there are people who are carers with no respite, people who have no help with money from the govt (look to italy where people cannot feed their families), people in dv situations, people stuck in flats. I think a gradual lifting and 'pulsing' of restrictions is better for everyone.

Abreadsandwich · 14/04/2020 09:04

I think they will review but do 3 weeks at a time as saying we would be locked down for 3 months (or whatever the full time ends up being) would have been a) too difficult to predict and b) proposing an an extended period of time straight away might have prompted a backlash.

RoseMartha · 14/04/2020 09:14

@moomoogalicious & @PictPost & @MummytoCSJH & @BenjiB & @starsparkle08

Me too. 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗 (sorry if i missed anyone off).

On lockdown I cant see anything being lifted until end of May.

I understood the three weeks thing meant that they would review it every three weeks.

ilovecakeandwine · 14/04/2020 11:15

I keep thinking surely they will announce a tighter lockdown soon, but doesn't seem to be happening?*
Why ?
The government has already said the lockdown is working what would tightening achieve?
It'll most probably be extended 3 weeks again then reviewed , that what other countries seam to be doing then gradual release like small shops etc .

CoffeeRunner · 14/04/2020 11:22

I think it is important to remember that compared to other countries we are not even in lockdown.

We just have some restrictions on our movements. If anything, changes will make lockdown tighter before any sort of “release” happens.

I’ve said all along that I think this is us until June sometime. And I see no reason to change that opinion.

MrsPworkingmummy · 14/04/2020 11:31

@moomoogalicious it's good to know I'm not alone. My 8 year old DD is on the cusp of an autism, adhd, odd diagnosis and living with her is hell on earth. She is angry, rude, confrontational, violent, has frequent meltdowns that last hours and will not follow simple instructions. I am walking around in a state of near constant anxiety. All of our CAMHs support has stopped so I have phoned our gp today asking for sleep medication for her as she doesn't sleep through the night either. It's utter torture.

LangClegsInSpace · 14/04/2020 12:34

meditrina - I think the reason there is no sign of an exit plan is that there is no imminent need for it.

I think there is. The following is from the transcript of yesterday's WHO briefing. It's very hopeful but it sets out clearly what we need to be doing now:

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Ben Qui, People's Daily: Thank you for taking my question. There is a positive signal about a lot of the things the DG said last week so how do you assess the current situation in Europe. Do you expect the turning point to come in one or two weeks for most European countries?

Dr Michael Ryan: Obviously we all dearly hope that that is the case and we've certainly seen a stabilisation in a number of countries in the direction of travel of the epidemic curve and the intensity of increase has stabilised and some countries have actually begun to see a pretty consistent drop first in the number of hospital admissions but then we should start to see that follow through.

Deaths take a little bit longer to drop because many people are in hospital already and some unfortunately may die so we look at the number of confirmed cases and we look at the number of hospitalisations as the first indicator that things may be stabilising and we're certainly seeing that.

It's of great credit to people all over the world and particularly from badly-affected European countries that they've stuck with the task of physical distancing and stay-at-home orders and that that's taken the pressure out of the epidemic but by no means does that mean that it's over. Now is the time for vigilance, now is the time to double down, now is the time to be very, very careful.

That does not mean that countries cannot begin to create an exit strategy, it doesn't mean that countries shouldn't be actively planning to do that but, as the Director-General said, in that sense there are things that need to be done. You can't replace lock-down with nothing. You must replace lock-down with a very deeply educated, committed, empowered and engaged community. We are going to have to change our behaviours for the foreseeable future and we've seen a huge embracement of that by people.

In the vast majority of cases that has not needed to be enforced. The vast majority of citizens are doing what they can for themselves and to protect others but we are going to have to have those adapted behaviours in terms of personal hygiene, physical distancing, being careful for a long time.

So the base of moving out of lock-down is communities on the alert, communities aware of the risks and communities taking action and continuing to take action to protect themselves and others. That needs to be backed up with a way of finding the virus. At the moment everybody is suffering because everyone has to be separated. That's because countries don't know exactly where the virus is.

The only way to get out of this is to find the virus. The only way we find the virus is to identify those people who may be infected and test and isolate, find contacts and quarantine contacts. That is in a sense - community empowerment, community involvement and public health intervention through the use of case finding, isolation, contact and quarantine is the alternative to having lock-down - and having a health system that's capable of absorbing any increase in cases.

We need to continue that strength in the health system. It's incredible how health systems have adapted and how hospitals have expanded, how they've done amazing things, absolutely incredible things over the last number of months and they have saved many, many lives but we're going to have to sustain that capacity and health workers are going to have to continue to have protective equipment and we're going to have to continue to have intensive care beds on stand-by because as we come out of these locked-down situations we may see a jump back up in cases and we don't want to lurch from lock-down to nothing to lock-down to nothing.

We need to have a much more stable exit strategy that allows us to move carefully and persistently away from lock-down and the only way to do that is to have fully empowered communities and a fully activated public health architecture and a strengthened health system.

Dr Maria Van Kerkhove: A small addition to that to say, it's really important that the lifting of these measures doesn't happen all at once all over Europe and we completely understand - we're in the same situation - the desire to want to release those and get people back to work and kids back to school and all that.

But it's really important that it's not done all at once because if the systems are not in place - as has just been outlined - the systems to identify where the virus is, to isolate cases, to find the contacts, to treat the cases, to have the beds free to actually care for patients - then you're going to be overwhelmed again.

So what could happen is if they're lifted in certain strategic areas maybe where there's lower incidence and if that can happen slowly then the system can divert where it needs to go to be able to quickly identify those cases while other parts of the country may still have those restrictive measures in place.

But it does have to happen slowly, it does have to happen in a very controlled manner and it is important that the community understands this because it may be a little bit longer that you have to remain at home or you have to work from home or schools may need to be closed but again this is temporary. I know it seems like a long time now but it is temporary so not lifting all at once is very critical so that we can get people back to work, get these economies going back again as quickly as possible.

moomoogalicious · 14/04/2020 21:54

@MrsPworkingmummy i hope you get some urgent help from your gp. Lots of us in similar positions Flowers perhaps we should start our own support thread

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