It's predicted we might well be the worst affected country in Europe

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52261859

If the virus is affecting BAME communities more could that explain the difference in some countries?

Actually we were advised not to visit on mother’s day
I didn’t as per advice

Many others wouldn’t have either

mocho of course it will.

But that doesn't fit with the MN narrative.

*Sounswe are in lockdown and have to stay at home where possible. What is the point at this time.

Your relative is probably more likely to catch it now they are back in the UK.*

They are coming on a long haul flight and will pass through at least 3 airports (as well as being on a plane) and then will go home to other family members.
Another friend had to isolate after coming back from the far east but I thought just the fact of travelling though airports and being on planes would suggest it was a good idea.

The thing is what happens in other contries when they lift lock down.It doesn't stop the virus just slows it so the figures for other counties aren't the final ones as if that is it,it's all gone.
All this talk about death numbers means that we haven't got our heads around how many more there are going to be.Many seem unaware of how may thousands of people die each month from non Covid causes.

#managedmis
No everyone did not see their mothers on mothers day .. I know I never saw my mother on mother's day and my eldest son couldn't come to me because of self isolating.. it was the worst mothers day ever .
I contracted covid-19 on march 19th .. I didnt realise what it was ( I did have a feeling tho ) and didn't self isolate until 21st march..the day before it was well publicised because I sat in a wetherspoons on the 20th coughing and everyone was looking , I had a mother pulling her child away from me at Tesco because I was coughing ..I had a falling out with a customer at an independent store because she insisted on picking up every single punnet of strawberries before putting them down and I was told on that day I was furloughed.. 20th march was a fucking shit day for me that I will always remember.
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What's the MN narrative?

Yes it's likely we will be worst effe ted in europe. As the dailing briefing says - deaths infectiobs doubling every three days up until lockdown - and deaths will be increasing for a week or two more. Had we have lockdown even a week sooner as other countries did, our outbreak would be under half the size.

I bought ppe in early feb and I'm not a prepper - it was obvious then what was going to happen. Yet despite all evidence i still heard the gov tell people it doesn't spread without symptoms, doesn't spreadat mass events. Even now they are only isolating people for 7 days- WHO scientists say 14 days . Why are our scientists so different?

Shiny, if you started to show symptoms on the 20th/21st, then you contracted Covid probably at least a week beforehand.
Hope you're over the worst now.

If Italy had tested twice as many people as the U.K they’re identifying more deaths as well as more cases

Our death figure is for hospital deaths with family consent only and does not include deaths at home or in care homes

Look at the revised ONS statistics, which are released every Tuesday. They’re 70-80% higher than the daily figure

I contracted covid-19 on march 19th .. I didnt realise what it was ( I did have a feeling tho ) and didn't self isolate until 21st march..the day before it was well publicised because I sat in a wetherspoons on the 20th coughing and everyone was looking , I had a mother pulling her child away from me at Tesco because I was coughing

What the fuck were you doing, going to Wetherspoons with a cough when you ‘had a feeling’ it was covid 19? Even if you hadn’t had your feeling, you should still have stayed at home.

What the fuck were you doing walking around Tesco with a cough? I don’t blame the mother for pulling the child out of the way.

Is this a joke?

And as for it ‘not being well publicised’ before 21 March: pull the other one. The corona symptoms were reported and discussed everywhere, as was the requirement to stay away from other peop,e is you had symptoms of any virus whatsoever.

We still don't fully understand or know how this virus will develop as such, yet someone can predict that we will have the worst figures in Europe . They don't know that for sure only time will tell .

I bought ppe in early feb and I'm not a prepper - it was obvious then what was going to happen.

How was it obvious this was going to happen in early Feb? Wuhan only locked down on the 23/01 & the first European death was 14/02.

Was it not March 13th we were told to self isolate for a cough and / or temp?

Like PP I am shocked that you were out and about.

Canterbury I believe that the hatred of the government for many posters means that they are willing the government to fail.

I hate the government too. Never voted for them and never will but I am willing them to get it right because myself and my loved ones are affected.

They have made mistakes, but we are not at the end of the pandemic so we really don't know how it is all going to play out.

Scientists, epidemiologists and virologists have been working on models in real time country by country since the whole thing began.
It's fairly safe to say the UK isn't going to come out of this as one of the success stories. And following approximately two weeks give or take from Italy and Spain the govt and CMO knew exactly what needed to be done to prevent the same happening in the UK.
They did too little, too late. And worse of all, they lied about it.

20th march was a fucking shit day for me that I will always remember

Probably quite a lot worse for the people you will certainly have infected, cheerfully coughing all over people In Wetherspoons and Tesco. No matter, though. You were furloughed on 20 March, so you’re the real victim, eh?

Sorry X post with Random.
I don't think they have got it right at all. I wish I was wrong.

Canterbury I'm not convinced either but it's still early days. But I do sometimes really struggle with some posters who definitely seem to take delight in it.

Has anyone posted this thread yet?

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1249127908876128259.html

Shows the differences between the Irish and UK approaches. Might explain a bit why it's gotten so bad in the UK. It's pretty sobering reading.

I mean it's not like Ireland has escaped. But Ireland's death total would be a hell of a lot less if, like the UK, it only counted inpatient confirmed positive cases. Instead, it counts all deaths, regardless of the location, with Coronavirus as a primary or secondary cause. So you can't compare like for like, as the UK's numbers aren't a full total.

Still the death rate, when in rural areas like Cumbria is twice Ireland's. And that's without even counting all of them!

@StrawberryBlondeStar
Whenever anyone posts that people tend to ignore it , yet it can be looked up and any body's figures could change , hopefully ours start changing for better

I agree with @Random18 in that some posters are almost gleeful about high death rates & so quick to apportion blame.

It wouldn’t be unexpected for us to have higher death rates then all those countries are population is bigger

The population in France is around the same as the UK, and Italy's is only slightly lower than ours. Regardless, I still think Uk deaths will be proportionately higher than all those countries, the only possible exception being Spain.

In my.fucking defence I wasnt sure what the cough was .. it was a cough I was displaying no other symptoms.. fucking hell 3 months previous if I had a cough no one would have looked my way !! All of a sudden someone fucking coughs and people have a shitfit.and.wet themselves ... as.soon as I showed other symptoms and immediately self.isolated .. jesus christ get a grip and grow up!
I have said from the beginning of this and continue to say now ... people are cunts and this site had shown nothing but disgust and contempt.. I've never known mn to be this bad .. I nearly had a breakdown ! .. I have been home ever since and I was quite poorly over a 3 day period.. no one I live with have shown symptoms and I'm over 3 weeks.out.

@mochojoes I agree it does seem like some think that . And if anyone points out any different info they choose to ignore it