If I have symptoms can dh still go out for exercise/food?

[BreathlessCommotion]

Firstly, please be nice. I feel bloody awful, hard to breathe, everything hurts etc. Please don't call me stupid or selfish.

Secondly I need the actual advice/rules, not the MN opinion.

I have symptoms - cough, difficulty breathing, aching, exhausted, temp. So I am isolating in one bedroom. I have dh and 2 dc. And a dog. Are they still allowed to go out for one walk a day, obviously making sure social distancing (easy as never see anyone where we dog walk).

I thought they could (based on a friend who had to do it a few weeks ago). But then thought maybe I'd read different and now in confused.

@ChoporNot - if you have symptoms you and your family should stay at home. Regardless of what makes you feel better.

Unbelievable that someone thinks the best thing to do with the virus is literally to run round spreading it. Maybe people are right to be paranoid about runners coming too close. We will be completely locked down if fools like Chopornot have their way.

Bloody hell. I can't believe what I have read

@Chopornot what don't you understand about staying at home if you are showing symptoms? You are being utterly selfish

Or are you just being goady?

If you didnt still have a fever you might have been able to go out after 7 days (would have said dont run though!!) But your family 14days. As you have symptoms still (not only cough ) you shouldnt be going out.
Exercise lowers your immune system temporarily.
If you have phlegm it may be loosening it. Also often runners are 1 covering more ground so shedding everywhere.
2 breathing more heavily
3 going at a different pace to others so overtaking people rather than staying a fixed distance.

I think that may have been unclear at some point that you cant go out at all if isolating but dont think it was changed in last 7days

@Talia99 I know. But honestly, the advice on NHS and Gov websites last week said you should stay home/stay away from shops etc but it was OK to go out once a day to exercise. Looking today (after this thread) the guidance has changed. I have just double checked with DH (as I showed him the NHS website last week) and 100% changed.

I have been running totally away from anyone else. Only where there is plenty of space to go very wide. 1 dogwalker (if that) that I go about 10 metres wide/hold breathe as I go past and adjusted my routes so not touching any gates etc.

My health wise my lungs felt short of breath the only day I didn't run. I am not running any marathons and absolutely not pushing myself so I am not doing any damage. I am running super-slowly compared to normal and it is really helping ease the breathlessness. The thing that took me back out running was, after following the "5 deep breaths/hold breath" video advice from the ICU doctor my breathlessness After I did that (ie really used my lungs) the breathlessness eased a bit. Tried a run the next day and likewise, lungs easier.

Obviously now I know the advice has changed I will not go out until my self-isolation is over. I will still run - in circle around the garden.

Chopornot you're a twat.

And no, not being goady. Was not breaking the guidelines. I read them last week, fully expecting it to say don't go out. IT DID NOT SAY THAT. I said it was OK to "Go outside for one hour of exercise".

I checked. I showed DH. We thought, oh, OK.

Guidelines have changed.

The guidelines changed to all in the household a while ago, before even the school closures and lockdown. We had loads of staff being off because a family member had a cough or temp on the last few days we were open

They HAVE changed - this is what it used to say

Yes I agree that was the initial advice after the first cobra meeting. I remember most people being shocked by that. It changed not that long after though as cases spiralled

Although that gives current advice in that ball household members should stay home. IF YOU MUST but has changed but if you must means absolutely no other choice ie immediate risk from hunger or lack of meds

Thanks. I thought it might have changed. I've asked some friends if they can walk the dog.

@Paintforkitchen Thank you!! I knew they had changed - just wasn't sure how to prove it! I distinctly remember it as DH and I were surprised but thought that, as it was there in the guidelines it was OK.

Now we know it has changed WE WILL NOT.

Can those frothing at me now please stop?

I have been following the guidelines I read last week in good faith.
I will now follow the amended guidelines in good faith.

You can beat me up for not reading the guidelines every single day if you like...but I did not think I would have to.

And we have not been going anywhere/seeing anyone etc apart from, what we thought were OK sessions of exercise.

I can't believe anyone with symptoms has been leaving the house except to get food/meds if they have absolutely no other choice.

My daughter's boyfriend got ill and she was sent home from work. She bought some food and then they both stayed in for a fortnight. Surely that was just sensible?

We have just finished, a week ago, 14 days of DH isolating due to my symptoms and dues to DCs coughs... Today he's coughing. We are also in the process of separating and he's driving me mad. I could cry, another 14 days in for the 3 of us, 7 for him, even though I'm pretty sure I had it as had all the classic symptoms.
I've been running every day and the thought of not getting out for that fills me with dread, not getting the kids out..even though we can walk in the woods behind us as nd not see as nyone usually, at the moment it's packed with people.
But I guess that's that, just have to do it.

I have symptoms again, but first came down with it three weeks ago so won't have any live virus in my system

@WanderingLost167 do you know 100% it was covid 19 last time? Were you tested?

It is absolute madness to go outside when you have the very disease we are trying to protect people from getting.
I don't need a government guideline to tell me that surely.

You put the letter in the recycling and now you’re not sure what you’re supposed to do?
We’ve all paid for those to be sent out, if you weren’t already aware of the protocol you could have at least taken 5 minutes to inform yourself when it was handed to you on a plate.
Fuck me.

@Paintforkitchen

That advice (about going out to exercise) was for the household members, who do not have symptoms.

It very clearly says in the paragraph above that if you have symptoms you must stay at home for seven days and not go out.

I agree Watertorture. You would have thought that common sense would prevail.

Sorry, possibly being a bit harsh there on re reading. Get well soon.

@ChoporNot that advice was for the other people in the household with the person displaying symptoms NOT for those with the actual symptoms!!!! How anyone can think it is ok to go out when they are infected is beyond me

Well the advice has changed since the letter so a bit pointless eh?

Didn't take long for people to turn nasty did it.

Have you seen the diagrams from research of how far the particles can spread when you are running vs normal breath. And that advice is most certainly not for symptomatic people nor was it hair changed in the last few days