Does anyone think they have caught it going to the shops?

[Pooshweens]

Going to the shops is the only time I come close to another person, outside of my household. And sometimes it is of course less than 2m

Just wondering if anyone has caught the virus, from grocery shopping?

-of course supermarkets are source of viruses.
i saw our one of the big one when shelves were empty, it was so dirty, the check outs are as well.
they just put new stuff and never clean the surfaces.
i was really appalled. they should disinfect everywhere regularly.
some shops have baskets that are sooo dirty.
i cant believe this.
-also council rubbish bins given to households are never cleaned. some have maggots in them. thats another thing i cant my head around.

What on earth else could Tesco possibly do better under the circumstances?

The staff in all the supermarkets should be wearing gloves and masks.

They have screens up in our tesco but the staff walking around dont seem to bother with the 2 metre rule

We haven't been off our property now for over a month. We had a shopping delivery after 2 weeks and that was the only contact we'd had with the outside world (we don't live close to other people). It was left outside but only for an hour and we stupidly then brought it into the house. DS1 has a weak immune system and developed a really high temperature 24 hours later. He was fine after a couple of days but may well have had it. We won't know for sure since he wasn't tested but whatever virus it was, it almost certainly came from the shopping.

Would shopping in a small local shop be better than a large supermarket?

@Randomschoolworker19 are you seriously going to keep up that routine until there’s a vaccine?? You realise you could be stuck doing this for years...

@indemMUND
Well it’s the only place he’s been and hasn’t seen anyone else or been near anyone who has been out of the house.
However, I’m not sure if he caught it before or after the shops introduced more formal social distancing.

@Pleasedontdothat

Like any routine once you get into the swing of things it's no different than any other routine.

I'd rather not get a virus that kills 90% of the people that are hospitalised, and if I do unfortunately end up getting it I hope to get it as far down the line as possible when we know more and hopefully have some drugs that work.

Well thats crap that others think they caught something from deliveries too.

My parents are shielding.
Thing is i cleaned the food or left it quarantined actually longer i think than when we got ill all excelt freezer stuff and fridge. (Wiped down fridge but not freezer stuff).
However apparently viruses can last a very long time in a freezer. And that is how they are stored in labs after all.
Maybe we need a - you touch it you buy it rule.
How are people disinfecting foods?
Can you just rinse with hand soap?

It just seems like all vulnerable people will get it anyway

I went to to supermarket.... Quite a few staff members gently coughing into shelves whilst stacking them.

Also they know it can take longer than the 7-14 days to stop shedding so any supermarket staff or customers who have been ill or asymptomatic are shedding on it all.

But if they had been able to be tested we would probably be keeping people off longer.

Imo the idea is slower infection not stopping it completely

If say what i used on the shopping didnt work maybe it doesnt kill coronaviruses? Then getting ill from the shopping is unsurprising really.

They could do with bleaching the delivery baskets every day too

My DH is supermarket staff and he says it's actually a mix of staff and customers flouting the rules. I have told him he needs to call section 44 of the Health and safety legislation as management are not doing anything and putting staff and customers at serious risk (some of the things management are doing ought to lead to some serious fallout from authorities in my opinion), he can't be penalised for doing so (eg cant lose wages etc, I've told him to take photos etc). His immediate boss and the store manager are the worst. I am just waiting for him to get it and bring it home to me (asthmatic) and our children.

I heard on TV this virus can take as much as 4 weeks to show symptoms so how can we really know where we caught it?

@MinkowskisButterfly My DH shop is the same his manager actually has it and has been in intensive care, he's ok now but half the shop is off with symptoms so no idea what will happen when he goes back to work. Every supermarket I've been in the staff are floating around mingling

@Randomschoolworker19

Where are you getting the 90% of people that are hospitalised? Its not even 90% of people in ICU ?

Or are you going by the UK's lack of decent data on recoveries? Frankly I think this is the worst part of our crap testing - the face that the figures make it look like this is the bloody apocalypse when it is not.

I have a cough and chest/back pain. The only place I've been for the past few weeks is either Tesco or the local co-op.

Of course it could just be a cough.

@Acautionarytale

It's somewhat old now but the data from closed cases is pretty appalling.

That is because we don't actually check for people having recovered according to the standard methodology - two separate negative tests 48 hours apart. So it never gets updated.

Hence it looks pretty shit.

This is what I mean about the lack of testing not hiding how bad it is but actually making it look a hell of a lot worse than it is,

I went food shopping, H started showing symptoms 5 days later despite him also being out elsewhere but he is firmly in the camp that it’s all my fault and I’ve tried to kill him

There was an elderly man who presumably caught it shopping at his local corner shop, as it’s the only place he went. He sadly died. His daughter told the story. Sad.

I've said this on another thread today but I was in Tesco on Monday, which was my 2nd time off our own property in 3 weeks. The only other place I have been was Boots the previous week to collect a prescription.

DH has done weekly shopping in Aldi.

I thought Tesco was appalling on Monday. Social distancing on the way in, a small queue, but a woman came and stood pretty much next to me to I asked politely to keep back, she looked very surprised I had asked her that.

Once we got in it was mayhem - the same woman, who was behind me, overtook me going through the door from the foyer into the actual shop! And then stopped dead JUST inside the door to look at flowers, touched some and didn't purchase any.

A young man was kneeling, balancing himself by holding onto the shelf and rifling though boxes of vitamins on a bottom shelf, He picked up several boxes and put them back and he didn't buy any.

Another lady was picking up easter eggs to look at the back of the packaging and putting them back again!

Lots of staff milling about and walking too close, also stacking shelves and no space to safely move past them.

I thought to myself, these supermarkets will now become the main place where people pick this up! I hated shopping there

I’m a key worker and may be coming down with it last night/early this morning I was struggling to breathe (mildly) whilst sleeping on my side. Just attributed it to the temperature being quite hot, removed some layers, opened a window and laid on my front.

Since then I was okay, but I’m currently laying on my front and struggling to breathe again. I suddenly have a bit of an “unproductive” cough (no mucous) but it isn’t persistent. My chest feels a bit strange, there’s a dull sensation, almost like it feels tight but again very mild

My BIL caught it at the supermarket. He had been working from home, hadn't gone out at all apart from to go food shopping once. He lives alone so nobody else to bring it home. Thankfully he was in good health before and has recovered quickly and without any complications.

I'm in Italy and it's generally held that after exactly 4 weeks of lockdown people are only now catching it in 2 main places: hospitals and the supermarket.

And nursing homes.

Probably hospices, rehab centres too. Via support workers who come into the homes of many different elderly in one day.