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Boris in ICU

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PicsInRed · 06/04/2020 20:14

Oh Boris no 🙁

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Casino218 · 07/04/2020 12:16

I find it a bit disconcerting that the BBC keeps talking about him in the past tense!!

Hairwizard · 07/04/2020 12:18

So cant find anything on bbc news or sky news to confirm what i think i heard. Really hoping i missheard.

ButtonMoonLoon · 07/04/2020 12:22

He’s not on a ventilator, but is having oxygen support probably via CPAP
according to a sky news broadcast I watched at 11.30

SwerfandTurf · 07/04/2020 12:22

Official word is that he’s not on a ventilator. Of course there has been a lot of fake news and rumours being spread throughout this whole crisis.

Hairwizard · 07/04/2020 12:24

Yea the news updates had all been saying in icu but not on one and receiving oxygen etc but then that update at 12 i thought i heard her say he was on one. Looks like i missheard her. Thank fuck.

vera99 · 07/04/2020 12:24

From a rejoin the EU group I follow on FB...

Boris Johnson.

A man who has lived his entire life recklessly, selfishly, irresponsibly; without any regard for the consequences. Because he's never needed to. His enormous privilege has protected him from any repercussions.

He is a proven pathological liar, swaggering through the years with no empathy or concern for anyone but himself. Indeed, recently bragging about shaking hands with Corona virus patients. As if it was just another laugh; a jape; just another moment in a life less honourable.

There is a grim irony to him finally, in this manner, being confronted by the consequences of his behaviour. Even he can't lie & bluster his way out of this mess.

One can only hope that the Prime Minister, as he languishes in intensive care, courtesy of the NHS that he and his party have done so much to destroy, deeply regrets the cheering & jeering doled out to nurses by he and his colleagues; when they voted down a payrise for those heroes. If he's lucky he'll now be finding out exactly how valuable these people are.

My brother, sadly, wasn't lucky.
Jas, 54, died of Covid-19 in Nottingham's Queens Medical Centre a week last Saturday night. Unlike the Prime Minister there was no ventilator for Jas.
'Operation: Last Gasp', right, Prime Minister?

I then stood on an empty street, shouting to be heard over the wind, no privacy, no dignity, to tell an old man on a doorstep his child had died. The most indescribably awful duty I've ever had to carry out.

There will, of course, be those idiots, those hypocrites, those bootlickers, who will condemn me for 'politicising' both my own loss & Boris Johnson's condition. They can't grasp that politicians making political decisions and political choices impact people's lives. And sometimes end them. As Jas found out.

Do I wish Johnson dead? No. Do I wish dead the selfish, the greedy and the stupid who voted for him and still, even now, support him? Those who were perfectly happy to ignore the systematic destruction of the NHS while they were all right Jack? Again, no.

My sympathy, however, remains with the terrified & heartbroken victims of this crisis. The appalling & callous mishandling of which is unavoidably the responsibility of Boris Johnson.

It would be nice to think that lessons will be learned; that, individually and collectively, we will discover our self-respect and understand that governments only ever treat us the way we allow; that, when this is over, an enormous reorganisation of the nation’s priorities will be undertaken, by both the politicians and the electorate; that, at last, people will concern themselves with the value of others and much less with the cost of things.

If Boris Johnson, in any way, might be that catalyst then he will have done at least one noble thing in his life.

My breath, however, remains unheld.

pocketem · 07/04/2020 12:25

Official word is that he’s not on a ventilator

Official word yesterday, just two hours before he was taken into ICU with breathing difficulties, was that he was comfortable and in good spirits.

Official word two days ago was that he was just going into hospital for some routine precautionary tests.

Forgive me if I don't trust the official words anymore

Thinkinghappythoughts · 07/04/2020 12:27

Definitely a lot of truth in there sadly.

kissmewherethesundontshine · 07/04/2020 12:32

vera99 that must be heart breaking for the poster, and as thinking just last night how horrific it will be for people hearing BJ had a ventilator waiting just in case when people are dying as there isn't any Sad

alloutoffucks · 07/04/2020 12:32

Yes officially he is not on a ventilator. Just as officially he had only mild symptoms and then was being admitted to hospital for routine tests.

hambledon · 07/04/2020 12:34

Vera I am so, so sorry. My heart goes out to you.

Please can everybody go back to vera99's post and read it and think about not only her loss but what it says about our country.

TwentyViginti · 07/04/2020 12:34

vera99 a very honest assessment, that post.

vera99 · 07/04/2020 12:36

It is not me it is a post on FB being widely shared.

TwentyViginti · 07/04/2020 12:36

I don't think it was vera, but from a FB group she follows

hambledon · 07/04/2020 12:36

Oh dear misread your post Vera. I thought it was your brother.

Well, he was somebody's brother.

powershowerforanhour · 07/04/2020 12:38

I then stood on an empty street, shouting to be heard over the wind, no privacy, no dignity, to tell an old man on a doorstep his child had died. The most indescribably awful duty I've ever had to carry out.

Imagine having to do that and not even being able to put your arms around your dad.

Peregrina · 07/04/2020 12:42

vera99 - Yes.

But wait for the thread police to come along and say that you shouldn't post that here - this is about Boris being in ICU.

Maybe lessons will be learnt. After the War the upper classes thought that things would go on for them as before, and they got a big shock when Churchill got booted out.

Didkdt · 07/04/2020 12:44

As far as I'm aware Nottingham isn't rationing out ventilators yet and who would stand in a street and shout that out you would call even if toy stood outside your dad's house
Another poster has posted the same harrowing tale on another thread it's a hoax post and a pretty crass one that actually insults the ICU medical teams working so hard to save everyone they can.

esjee · 07/04/2020 12:46

I don't see why the supposed brother in that post wouldn't get a ventilator if he was medically fit enough to be on one.

TheMagiciansMewTwo · 07/04/2020 12:46

All this is showing is that people don't understand how quickly this can progress. In the course of 1 day my friend went from living his normal life to being in hospital. In the space of a day in hospital they went from sending messages, taking calls, arguing and joking with people, to needing oxygen. They went from the ward to ICU.

All the criticisms of Tory policy and Boris as a politician are justified but creating straw men, false comparisons and using your ignorance about the virus to try to score points? That smacks of student politics, and your 'need' to dress up attacks on someone who is seriously ill as biting social and political commentary? Well, it says much more about you than it does about Boris or the Tories. And I don't think it's saying what you think it's saying about you.
And I'm not a Tory. I've never voted for Boris. But I do believe in humanity and common decency.

Peregrina · 07/04/2020 12:46

It looks as though it was someone else like a policeman having to go and break the news - it's not clear from the post. But either way, it's awful not to be able to be with your loved ones at their end, and then to have the news that they have passed away shouted out to you makes it worse.

Tonyaster · 07/04/2020 12:47

That post is bollocks. Hate hate hate all this stupod misinformation.

NellGwynsPenguin · 07/04/2020 12:48

My feeling is that they’re going to ventilate him soon. He looked very cyanosed to me in the last image of him... blue lips, very glassy and out of it.
His lungs will be filling with water, and he’ll be getting exhausted. This puts pressure on his heart.

I do hope he doesn’t refuse treatment that’s recommended, so as to look “strong” and “in charge” from his hospital bed. (Same way Trump won’t comply with his CMO’s advice “ it’s not for me”)

Covid doesn’t care about age, race, class, health, sex, position.
If your body reacts badly, your time is up.

I hope Boris isn’t going to try and bluster his way through, and depend on his luck. If he does that, he’ll be a goner.... sometimes you just have to take advice, relinquish the reins, accept you actually don’t know better than the doctors, and do what you’re told by the medics, to survive.

Wishing everyone who’s ill a speedy recovery.

Tonyaster · 07/04/2020 12:48

From a rejoin the EU group I follow on FB...

Says it all.

Kurzgesagt · 07/04/2020 12:48

Vera99 That is so eloquently put and right to the nub of things ...
Hopefully the country will learn that the NHS whatever it’s faults is something worth valuing and preserving.

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