If outdoor exercising is banned, what about dog walking?

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Are they exempt? Expected to just use their garden for dog exercise? What about dog owners without gardens?

Spain I beleive allow dogs to be walked within 50 metres of your home. Breach if and get a 6000 Euro fine.

I know - madness! Some people prioritise children over dogs.

it wont be banned.

Bloody hell, are we really suggesting that we let dogs piss and shit in the house? It's a fucking biohazard. But that's OK, people should live in squalid conditions just so little Noah can go on the swings. Christ almighty...

So it's a bio hazard when inside pet owners houses but not a bio hazard when they shit in the park and on the street where the general public are.

Thanks a lot!

My children can play in the garden all day and need a walk less than my dog by the way. The garden isn't big enough for the dog to get the exercise she needs. The kids play on the trampoline, swing, slide.....they can make it work. The dog doesn't understand this. It's not prioritising the dog over the children.
Jeezo some people are ridiculous.

It is if the children don't have outdoor space. Your dog and run and toilet in the garden too.

I don’t think it will happen, I just think they will step up giving out fines to those who are not sticking to the rules. Most areas are complying, London seems to have a major issue of people being twats, we are not seeing these scenes where we live, no one meeting up in groups, no one sun bathing in the parks.

Jeezo. Coz all families with children have a garden.

But she won't get the exercise she needs in the size of garden we have. The children will.

Kids who dont have gardens should also be allowed to walk within a certain distance of their house. I'll be gobsmacked if this isn't allowed.

Jeezo. Some people are rude. And stupid.

To the ones saying "having dogs in a flat with no garden is cruel".. oh please! I spose it would be great to just have dogs in a rescue instead of in a loving home in a "cruel flat" 🙄 i have a house with a garden but know loads of people with dogs in flats. Children go to toilet in the house in a toilet dogs dont! So if they dont have a garden then they will have to let dogs out to do their business just like in other countries. Yes kids need exercise but in my opinion dogs need it more. Im a dog person incase you cant tell 😂

Jeezo. Speaking about yourself, I presume?

Explain to me then, why a dog's need for exercise is greater than mine?

How my mental and physical health won't be equally affected if I can't get out for some fresh air and daylight? Maybe I'll have to live with those problems but I don't see why dog owners shouldn't be expected to mange it too, if I do.

This thread will not go well if it follows the pattern of other exercise threads posted here in the last couple of days.
I'm not a massive dog person but their have been some ridiculous posts from anti dog people ranging from ill informed, just plain bloody stupid to really offensive.really
I've gone off this place so much in the last couple of weeks, I don't know where there is a safe thread anymore.
Some people seem to have completely lost it.

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My dog doesn’t toilet on the lead or in the garden. She is a rescue and we think she had previously been beaten for toileting in the wrong place.
She only goes in the fields, off lead.
If she can’t do that she will hold on for days until she absolutely can’t any more and does it in the house.
I know she isn’t the government’s number one concern at the moment but I’m not quite sure what I will do if I can’t take her far enough to let her off lead.

It's not that the dog is more important it just that, whilst you and your kids have had years of training to use an indoor toilet dogs have had similarly intensive training to go outside, usually with a short walk being the stimulus for them to go.

Our 16 month old pup won't go on our small garden. That's been great, but now he holds it in until
we take him out, even if that is just metres outside the back gate. So yes, there are indoor toilet options, but I can't untrain him in any short time period and he is already experiencing enough discomfort holding it in as it is!

That understanding of dog behaviour is why other countries allow short dog walks when people are more closely locked down.

Humans have the intelligence to understand the situation and adapt their behaviour as necessary, knowing it isn't forever.

Dogs dont. Little kids also don't.

There's just no need for the nastiness. Try being a bit less selfish and a bit kinder, it will help you in the long run. Bitterness is also bad for your mental health.

She is a rescue and we think she had previously been beaten for toileting in the wrong place.
She only goes in the fields, off lead.
If she can’t do that she will hold on for days until she absolutely can’t any more and does it in the house.

Just off topic, there may be more reasons that that for you to suspect violence but that alone would not indicate she'd been punished for toileting anywhere other than grass. Where to toilet is developed through habit (the more a dog goes in one type of space, the more likely they are to go again on that same type) and this habit is stronger in some dogs that others. So a reluctance to go in any other environment than an open grass field may simply be a strong habit, born of only ever going to the toilet in such an environment.

I call it out in case it reassures.

So it's a bio hazard when inside pet owners houses but not a bio hazard when they shit in the park and on the street where the general public are

Please tell me where I said that. Shit is a biohazard wherever it is. Not a pet owner btw.

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Hi both, absolutely not having a go, or being nit picky. But have you sought trainer/ behaviourist advice for this. If not I would strongly recommend doing so. In most dogs it’s strongly habit and one that my last two dogs have shown and I’ve not questioned.
That was until my little old girl was on her way out of this world and couldn’t get to where she habitually toileted. It was really distressing for her and definitely tainted the last bit of time we had together. she was as you mentioned the kind of dog who would hold it for days and she was so uncomfortable and tried to hide the fact that she’d been by toileting in between the shed and house or under the bbq etc. We once found her stuck between our pushbikes. 😢
We’ve thankfully managed to train it out of our younger dog now. And would really recommend it in the long run.

Again I hope you don’t think it’s negative - I just think if I had thought about the impacts of it when she was littler, and addressed it better her end of life would’ve been far more enjoyable.

Thanks Vanilla, she is a dog of many issues and there are other reasons to suspect violence. However she was a breeding bitch and lived outdoors so habit might play a part too.

That’s really useful, Panic, thank you. She’s not young so don’t know whether we could retrain her, she has made progress in all kinds of ways but still a very complex dog. I will seriously consider a behaviourist when this is all over.

Out of interest, why don't people train their dogs to wee and poo in their own gardens from the very beginning? Surely that's better than having them wee and poo on the streets or in parks or verges?

I think some do, which proves it's possible Lavender. My GPs had a dog that was trained to go in one corner of the garden, so they knew where to go with the shovel to clear it up.

Cats wee and poo in houses without it being a “biohazard”. Get a litter tray. Dogs are meant to be smarter than cats anyway