Coronavirus, why arnt people disscussing this issue. Please help.

[Goddess1234]

Hi everyone, I hope your all well and safe. Ive never posted before, but I've been following like everyone else the developments over the last few months of covid 19. As of yet the government have said as its a new disease they still don't know much about it, thinking that it affected the elderly or people with respiratory issues. As of recent events we now know its not just the elderly and vulnerable people. Its our younger and our elder generation who are healthy with no health pre health conditions who are contracting this disease and many are dying within days or weeks. Some people say when they contract it, they have mild symptoms who are healthy. Other people who have no conditions are saying its like the devil pressing on them. Those who say they have recoved from the disease have said that they still feel weak with respiratory problems. The government have said its not flu. Seasonal flu does unfortunately kill hundreds of people a year. This is no flu. It is killing people who are perfectly healthy. There not just contracting the disease and recovering, many are. But as you can see thousands arnt across the world. Someone I spoke to recently said to me, we've hadcvmany deaths of seasonal flu. But we don't shut down whole countries across the world. Something doesn't make sense to me. Sorry if I'm going on a bit. My main issue is this. Why are healthy people dying within days of feeling unwell, to dying within days or a week. No one on the news or internet is reporting this, this is diustubing and worrying. Please can someone answer for me. Thank you. X

Wow MovingBriskyOn that was unnecessary.

There are some very useful, informative answers on here OP. Take care.

It kills those who can't use proper grammar

Shit, you'd better start running then. Run until you come to a stop. A full stop.

All the things I have not done, Im sorry to hear about your insomnia, silly question have you tried any remedies that have seemed to help apart from those you have just said. I used to breast feed my son, then used bottle. But then i started to use breast to comfort him. Big mistake. It took me a long time to get him to come off. He still says mummy booby. Then says No booby I'm a big boy now. I think it became more of a thing for me letting go that he was getting bigger. And not my tiny baby anymore. Goodnight. X

The thing is that young and healthy people do die from other, more weil known illnesses we think of as unpleasant but mild or even rare. Young and healthy people die from flu, from meningitis, from food poisoning, for example. It's much rarer for someone young and healthy to die from these things but there is always that small chance. This is not reported in the news because it's not new information. So if you don't know anybody personally who it's happened to and you don't work in medicine then you might very well be unaware of this.

The coronavirus is in the news constantly because it's new and not very well known and so every single death the media can get anything that seems unusual or that goes against the current public view they will jump on. There aren't very many newspaper reports about individual elderly or vulnerable people who have died as the numbers seem more shocking or impact full. But when a young person does die, it is something different to report on and the media do tend to pick it up.

Remember that something having a lower chance of happening doesn't mean it won't happen. If there is a 0.1% chance of something happening and you look at 1000 people, it has to be one of them. Someone is still going to be in that minority position. And with the sheer numbers expected to be infected with covid-19 yes, unfortunately, young and healthy people will die too. Not as many as those in the more vulnerable categories, but still enough to notice. That's why it's important to try and reduce the load on health services as much as possible. You can't necessarily control who gets the disease, but you can give them the best fighting chance if they do get it.

I hope that makes it a bit more clear.

I'm not sure it really matters at which point you catch it, it's like flu you can be in same room as someone who has a raging case of it, but cos your immune system is strong and effective you may just get a slight cold or nothing at all. The whole point of any virus is it attacks the weak not so the strong which is why ppl walk around asymptomatic and pass it on but have no effects themself. unlike a the plague which is a bacteria and it just attacks at random doesn't care about your immune system, basically because we have a body temp and the right environment for it to live in moist and warm.

Every channel is talking about it

I used to breast feed my son, then used bottle. But then i started to use breast to comfort him.

What do you mean exactly?

I have awful anxiety, OP and I try to keep it under control with stats. There are 34,000 confirmed cases which is people unwell enough to have sought medical advice and to have qualified for testing, I read somewhere that you can safely multiply that figure by ten to get an indication of how many mild cases are circulating in the community so potentially 340,000 cases overall (not counting those who show no symptoms at all which I think is estimated to be around 30-40%? So actual cases are probably way higher). Of that 'only' 163 are in serious/critical condition. I say 'only' purely in terms of statistics, obviously that 163 stillbrepresents 163 people and their families going through a horrific ordeal however it gives me enough perspective to be able to function on a day to day basis. Worldwide there are 810,000 active cases (again actual cases will be much higher, these are just confirmed cases) and 39,000 in serious/critical condition - around 5% of all cases.

It's okay to be worried

OP it is about numbers. On average 8,000 people a year die from seasonal flu. The predictions were that in the UK corona would kill half a million people if the government did nothing. With lock down and all other measures they are aiming for "only" 20,000 people to due of corona virus.
Half a million people dying is how many die on average every year in England and Wales from all causes - car accidents, still births, suicide, heart attacks, cancer - everything.

That is why we are on lock down. To stop an extra half a million people dying.

OP with lock down, the chances of you or your family dying from this are very small. Just avoid anyone you do not live with, and only go outside for the reasons the government has laid down.

Bertiebots. Yes it does, you have made it a lot clearer. Thank you. You are right, It does tend to focus more when a young person dies. A couple of people that my brother know, they were was tested with the symptom's and were tested positive with the virus. They self isolated and have said that they are recovering well. Which is good news.

Can I use the time machine to go back to 1994 please?

TAKE ME WITH YOU

TBH I am fed up of hearing about it, I blame the government for using a system the was designed 100 years ago in the early 20th century based around the Spanish flu. we are now in the 21st century and nothing was updated or changed ages ago like when MERs and SARS were around. they knew then that there was a possibility that it could mutate, bloody Chinese if humans were meant to eat Cat's, Dog,s Bat, Snakes and Pangolins we would all have them on our menus. The only country with fore thought was Finland which is why the basically carried on a normal. they test the whole population, quarantine those with the virus and the rest of society just goes on as normal.

Chinese government closed down that illegal market and banned the meats sold there, but guess what? it's up and running again already.

Balmytissues. When my son was born I breastfed solely. After six months I started to wean him off the breast and bottle fed due to mastitis. As my breasts started to heal. I would comfort him at night by breast not a dummy.

OP most important bit of information you can have is:
WASH YOUR HANDS
WASH YOUR HANDS-
WASH YOUR HANDS

and not shouting just making it very clear lol

don't get hung up on numbers of deaths remember over 12,000 people die in first 3 months of the year world wide due to flu it is about 0.0001% of the population. The percentages of people who die from complications of other illness bought about by Covid 19 as a catalyst is based on those tested who prove positive not of the population at large so yes they will seem high. also remember that the average age of those that died in Italy was 78.2 factual figure got from a paper I think The Spectator.

@TimeAintNothing did you get that figure from world o meter? The uk hasnt updated the critical cases or the amount recovered. for weeks. Last week a report was released and there was over 700

I did, I didnt realise it hadn't been updated but even then 700 in terms of overall infectioned is still relatively low. As stated before, obviously awful for the families involved and the ideal would be zero but in terms of perspective and my own personal anxieties it helps me to function.