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I don't need you to clap for us.

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SuperlativeScrubs · 02/04/2020 12:18

I don't need to be clapped for doing my job. There is a whole list of things that I need and clapping at the door isn't one of them.

What i need is to be given professional recognition with a payrise and better working conditions. All the therapists, physios and pharmacists need what I need. All the students aspiring to become nurses need to be given back their bursaries. All the HCA's and assistants working their asses off alongside us need payrises, professional regulation and recognition and better routes into nursing where a full time degree is impossible.

The forgotten Laboratory staff who do the actual testing for things like Covid-19, blood tests and other essential diagnostics (no, it isn't your doctor who does the actual diagnosing) need the same as us and their support staff need the same as ours. They could also do without people telling them they don't count as keyworkers because they "don't work on the wards" Hmm

The PA's, office workers, medical clerks, clinical coders, receptionists, who keep the tons and tons of paperwork in order for us because none of us have time need to be treated with far more respect, by the public and their colleagues. They are putting their health in danger too.

The hospitality staff who feed us all, the porters who move equipment and notes and all kinds of requests from department to department, the maintenance team who make sure everything from medical equipment to electricity to the ceilings aren't falling apart, the cleaners who are fighting the spread of infection from one part of hospital to the next, they need more pay and support and respect too. They are the forgotten ones. Without them the hospital would not be able to function safely.

And the mortuary staff, who at the end of the line are overloaded with infected patients while trying desperately to support the bereaved who can't even view their own loved ones during their grief, need to be respected day in day out instead of being told that there is not enough funding for them to run efficiently.

And you know what? These are things you damn well could be doing when there isn't a national heath crisis.

So instead of clapping, fight for our rights. Sign our petitions for better working conditions, effective PPE and pay. Stop overloading A&E for minor ailments. Stop treating the domiciliary and hospitality staff like they mean nothing. Stop yelling at receptionists doing their job. Stop telling Lab staff the hospital could run without them.

Stop clapping and actually do something to help, regardless of whether there is a pandemic or not.

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EasyTarget · 02/04/2020 13:16

Totally agree op. The clapping think is a symptom of our narcissistic culture.

Panicmode1 · 02/04/2020 13:18

@SuperlativeScrubs - my brother is a surgeon and said he found it really wonderful to get home after a long shift and hear all of the clapping. The person on our road who started us off last week is a nurse working on Covid-19 wards in London at the moment. I know that it may seem useless and pointless to many - and to others like virtue signalling (hate that term, it's so condescending), but if it is done with good grace and good will, and many of those who it's meant for DO appreciate it, then why not? And I think tonight's is also to thank all of the other wonderful people keeping us going - shop workers, teachers, bin men, delivery drivers etc etc.

If all you do is stand on your step and clap, then I can see that it's not much good. But it's not compulsory so those who are so scathing about it don't have to do it!

This week I have tried to get local people and companies to donate any PPE stuff to our local GPs who don't have ANY supplies, signed several petitions to pay NHS staff properly, checked in on my brother after every shift, phoned vulnerable neighbours to chat to them in self isolation - we are all doing what we can - some more than others, admittedly Wink.

Oysterbabe · 02/04/2020 13:18

I just wish they'd do it at 7 if they must so they don't wake my kids up.

LetsGoFlyAKiteee · 02/04/2020 13:21

Can see the clapping being a nice enough gesture..the drums..fireworks.. songs however less so. People shouldn't be shamed for not doing it though and it shouldnt be done so much as a look at us arent we wonderful shame on the rest of you.

squashyhat · 02/04/2020 13:24

Well said OP. Shared on my local Facebook page - the amount of patronising virtue signalling on there beggars belief.

UYScuti · 02/04/2020 13:25

During times of war the population is all encouraged to support the troops, get behind our boys and girls etc and yet when they come back broken they don't really get proper support from the government with mental health issues, are not properly compensated for the sacrifices they have made.
Will it be the same with the healthcare workers in the front line?

SuperlativeScrubs · 02/04/2020 13:39

@Panicmode1 Don't get me wrong, it is a really lovely gesture and the initial clap was appreciated. But it also highlighted the superficiality of the appreciation we receive. Because yes, for a lot of people it isn't about actually helping.

@GertiMJN if clapping is what makes people notice then brilliant. But why, why were they not taking notice when the literal collapse and privatization of the NHS was plastered all over the media, day in day out? Why is it clapping, and not devastation of our services which has ultimately contributed to the fallout when the pandemic hit that made people reconsider their actions?

And yes @Coldtart, it isn't just about us at all. It's about the other emergency services too. And all the frontline workers we suddenly realised were important who, as you say, now have to unexpectedly risk their own lives for the rest of us.

To those who have taken notice and signed those petitions and donated towards supplies, actually done something that will physically help in light of this, I truly do thank you.

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Iwalkinmyclothing · 02/04/2020 13:41

Excellent posts.

TheCanterburyWhales · 02/04/2020 13:43

Thank you for what you do, OP.
The clapping and ostentatious virtue signalling is nauseating.

catscatscatseverywhere · 02/04/2020 13:45

Well said OP. I didn’t clap 😂 I mean it’s nice gesture, but empty, just like hearing “you ladies are amazing” on Women’s Day. Doesnt change anything. Is there any petition to sign? Because I would like to do this. My 2 neighbours are doctors, I also worked in NHS practice and staff is so overwhelmed. Pay rise is a must, seriously.

UYScuti · 02/04/2020 13:46

Why were they not taking notice when the literal collapse and privatisation of the NHS was plastered all over the media
I suppose because it's much easier to ignore when you're not in a state of fear and panic over the health of the nation
you are totally right and justified in your anger about the complacency but the coronavirus crisis has made us see things in a way that we couldn't before

chocolatesaltyballs22 · 02/04/2020 13:47

I won't be clapping, I feel like it's a bit patronising and achieves nothing. It doesn't mean I don't appreciate what everyone is doing though.

DBML · 02/04/2020 13:50

Absolutely op. I think you are all hugely undervalued and now it’s been brought to light. If something isn’t done about it going forward, it would be horrendous.

SeriouslyRetro · 02/04/2020 13:57

I’m with you op, there’s so much that needs to be done.

Clap for us when it’s all over!

BackyardChickens · 02/04/2020 14:00

Agree.

MaidenMotherCrone · 02/04/2020 14:01

Brilliant post!

May I share this Op?

devildeepbluesea · 02/04/2020 14:02

Hear hear. Sick to death of seeing people pat themselves on the back for standing on their doorstep and clapping, and then in the next breath say what an amazing job the government is doing.

Not a fucking clue.

Lipz · 02/04/2020 14:06

I didn't realise the workers didn't want or like this. I certainly won't be clapping now.

Helpmefly94 · 02/04/2020 14:08

There’s a lot of NHS workers that agree with you but also feel a morale boost from the clapping.

littlemeitslyn · 02/04/2020 14:09

Wasn't going to

FrankieKnuckles · 02/04/2020 14:11

Can I clap for this post? Well said OP👏🏼

Oneliner · 02/04/2020 14:12

Absolutely

MaudBaileysGreenTurban · 02/04/2020 14:12

Well said, OP.

The clapping was mainly pointless last week. It's actually even worse this week given the ongoing incompetence of the govt and the parlous state of testing and PPE that still exists within the NHS.

And before anyone says 'that's not the fault of the clappers' - I live in a true-blue Tory majority area. My neighbours have voted the fuckers in every chance they get, for decades. Clearly, not a single one of them saw the irony of standing out on the street last week congratulating themselves for being so, so caring and concerned for the NHS. It made me feel nauseous.

I won't clap. I will, however, carry on working every day to support the NHS in my day job, support my many friends who still work on the frontline, donate whenever I can and, oh yeah, never ever vote Tory.

Helpmefly94 · 02/04/2020 14:16

I live in a true-blue Tory majority area. My neighbours have voted the fuckers in every chance they get, for decades. Clearly, not a single one of them saw the irony of standing out on the street last week congratulating themselves for being so, so caring and concerned for the NHS. It made me feel nauseous
You’d loathe the hospital where I work. In my department I’d say 9 out of 10 of them voted conservative. None of them have had a bad word to say about the government even with the current crisis

Allnightlong2016 · 02/04/2020 14:18

I absolutely agree. Please also don’t forget the nurses and care assistants in care homes who are looking after residents with COVID 19 symptoms but are refused testing by Public Health England. We are being put at risk, staff are becoming sick, myself included. We have difficulty accessing PPE. And no one seems to care about the people who have do not resuscitate decisions in place. They will not be transferred to hospital and will either live or die with us in the care home. It is heart breaking.

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