There was a small taste of this attitude when tax credits were first cut after Cameron dodged and fudged answering if they’d be cut in the run up to the 2015 election, there were people on the news and question time basically desperately trying not to say ‘when you said you were cutting the benefits bill I didn’t think you meant ME I’M not a SCROUNGER’
They didn’t like having to face the fact that as far as the tories are concerned YES YOU ARE.
The same is happening now on a much larger and faster scale - NOW do you realise WHY they didn’t have the guts to bring in UC across the country all at one time? They can minimise and have their pals in the press and media under report the disastrous effects of that on people’s lives because they’re letting it trickle out - or at least they were trying to!
As @canigooutyet said you’re not different, you’re not special you’re the same as the rest of us claimants! We’ve also had to claim because of bad luck - divorce, bereavement, illness, accident, redundancy due to our employers going under from poor fiscal management of the entire country!
To paraphrase Al Powell (die hard) time for Tory voters who are now having to claim
why don’t you wake up and smell what you been shovelling
Happy to dump the manure on the rest of us when they’re doing ok, not interested in mucking in when it means they gotta make sacrifices!
@userxx why do you think it unfair that cohabiting couples are treated like married ones? Been that way for benefits for many many years suspect you didn’t care until it has potential to affect YOU?
Joint claims are problematic for many reasons not least trapping mostly women in abusive relationships and making it a lot easier for them to be financially abused. Or did they not matter until it affected YOU?
@Deathgrip true colours coming out aren’t they? Iirc you and I were both pretty vocal on the nastiness of the tories on election threads and had Tory supporters denying and minimising so much of what we said - chickens coming home to roost just a few months later!
Lots of resentment and anger on this thread towards people who have made the effort to put a little bit of money aside.
NO the resentment and anger is towards those who have savings but DON’T WANT TO SPEND THEM but instead think the govt should help them protect those savings.
I have no problem with people who’ve been lucky enough to be able to save BUT who now acknowledge that in the current circumstances if their income is reduced or not happening they’ll need to use those savings to live on.
I absolutely DO have a problem with the snobby, entitled arses who think they’re more “worthy” than “ordinary” claimants and therefore deserve to be treated differently!
It’s the hypocrisy that fucks us off!
Talk to some disabled people about the DWP, then you’ll know about shafted. hear hear! Especially those of us with invisible disabilities and certainly mental illness is very poorly dealt with.
Well no. Workers who have saved £16,000 have been contributing to society and paxing tax. People who are long term benefits professionals without working, not so much
lovely attitude!! See - true colours!
Never mind that MOST long term claimants are:
Working poor receiving benefits - like ohh retail workers, refuse collectors, hcp’s, care workers, cleaners, child care workers... been clapping on thu nights?!
Carers - are you really saying THEY don’t contribute to society? Come off it! Bet they contribute more than you! Carers save the govt a fucking FORTUNE in health and social care costs!
Sick & disabled - many of whom worked previously for as long as they could manage and who even if not in paid work often support others
Odfod! Don’t contribute to society! You know the last groups that dismissed people’s lives based on their inability to create wealth for others? Nazis and communists!
The benefits system is there to help people who are looking for work no its not!! The tories in recent years have tried to claim this is the case and bastardised the system to reflect that but it is NOT what it is intended for at all! That’s only a part of it.
I wonder how many on benefits are actually doing that. you clearly have ZERO experience and barely watch the news. In recent years the disgusting “fit for work” decisions have caused people’s DEATHS.
@wewearpinkonwednesdays while the sentiment and humility is laudable I have to echo @deathgrip in saying that as someone with a lot of experience with dwp and knowing how overwhelmed they are at the moment (I actually know people who work for dwp too and they are sharing that they’re completely snowed under) in all likelihood claims may take several months to process (which was already the case in many places actually the 5 week wait is a MINIMUM really) and they only backdate to when you formally applied not to when you were made redundant or furloughed (as far as I know this is still the case). So the sooner you apply the better. £1500 isn’t that much that would last me 2-3 months and it’s just me here. If you have children to support you need to get moving.
It can take around a week just to fill in the forms and gather all relevant evidence in acceptable formats.